To My Friend G4Dude

[gutshotdraw]

Dude,

Given today's events, are you now willing to admit that picketing, advertising, leverage building and growing union solidarity DO produce tangible results?

Even you must acknowledge that the fundamental roadblock to a positive future for this company and this career was removed LARGELY BECAUSE of the last 12 months of UNION activity.

If you can't admit the fundamental role the union played in bringing about this much-needed and very positive change in leadership, then you are being intellectually dishonest with us and yourself.

I hope you will now consider throwing in with us in order to continue building on today's developments and help achieve a new CBA that moves the entire company forward.

Cheers amigo.

 

[Diesel]

Crickets.

 

[pilotyip]

Dude,

Given today's events, are you now willing to admit that picketing, advertising, leverage building and growing union solidarity DO produce tangible results?

Even you must acknowledge that the fundamental roadblock to a positive future for this company and this career was removed LARGELY BECAUSE of the last 12 months of UNION activity.

If you can't admit the fundamental role the union played in bringing about this much-needed and very positive change in leadership, then you are being intellectually dishonest with us and yourself.

I hope you will now consider throwing in with us in order to continue building on today's developments and help achieve a new CBA that moves the entire company forward.

Cheers amigo.

You might be right, but there could have been a downside, and G4 reflected those fears. In fact there might still be a downside, hind site will be the proof. Hoping a win-win for both sides.

BTW: The Nuclear option by Ike in 1955 did get the ChiComs to stop shelling the islands of Kimou and Matsu (sp?) Ike was attacked as a crazy man for even discussing this option.

 

[Diesel]

You might be right, but there could have been a downside, and G4 reflected those fears. In fact there might still be a downside, hind site will be the proof. Hoping a win-win for both sides.

BTW: The Nuclear option by Ike in 1955 did get the ChiComs to stop shelling the islands of Kimou and Matsu (sp?) Ike was attacked as a crazy man for even discussing this option.

oh no the feared Yip's downside.

Yeah it's called risk.

It's the same risk you take when you start a new job. It's the same risk you take when you move forward in life. It's the same risk you take when you go after your goals and get what you want.

Oh sorry i forgot my audience.

 

[pilotyip]

It's the same risk you take when you go after your goals and get what you want. Oh sorry i forgot my audience.

I accomplished my goals long ago when I fulfilled the dream of a 5 year old to be a Navy pilot. There was a fair amount of risk involved there, like getting killed as a few of my friends did. But I would trade it for nothing.

 

[Diesel]

I accomplished my goals long ago when I fulfilled the dream of a 5 year old to be a Navy pilot. There was a fair amount of risk involved there, like getting killed as a few of my friends did. But I would trade it for nothing.

good thing you had a college degree.

 

[pilotyip]

good thing you had a college degree.

Not really the college degree thing blew my chances at DAL, should have dropped out after two years become a NavCad and gotten out in 1968 when a military pilot was in a buyers market. Most guys I knew had job offers before they got out of the service.

 

[Diesel]

Glad I don't have a college degree.

-Said nobody ever.

 

[NJAowner]

Except Bill Gates and Mark Zuckerberg.

 

[Diesel]

Except Bill Gates and Mark Zuckerberg.

Both applied, accepted, and started college.

 

[pilotyip]

Both applied, accepted, and started college.

Yes your ilk are purists it does not count unless they get a 4 yr BA/BS. But a 4 yr degree done on line at Bumblebee State in Gender Studies, why that is the breakfast of champions

 

[imacdog]

Ah the same old tired YIP bullcrap. I'll start listening to YIP on career advice when, um, probably never.

 

[NJAowner]

Both applied, accepted, and started college.

But neither have a degree. Maybe you should change your quote to "Glad I don't have a college education -- said no one".

The opportunity to bust your b@lls is a rare one -- and I will not pass on the opportunity.

 

[Diesel]

Both applied, accepted, and started college.

But neither have a degree. Maybe you should change your quote to "Glad I don't have a college education -- said no one".

The opportunity to bust your b@lls is a rare one -- and I will not pass on the opportunity.

Lol if you make a couple of billion you're allowed to say that, or even lets say 50 million. Make it realistic.

 

[gunfyter]

I think at the very least the ads indirectly contributed. We know the pilots liked them and it was part of what increased confidence in the union leadership. This helped increase turnout at the pickets which got us on with Liz Claman.

 

[nordo_2]

I think at the very least the ads indirectly contributed.

NJA owner didn't like them. Oh well. I agree, those ads along with every other bad press njasap could pile on Columbus and Omaha. Good job union. Keep bringing the heat from every direction. Ads just like that one.

 

[pilotyip]

Ah the same old tired YIP bullcrap. I'll start listening to YIP on career advice when, um, probably never.

You don't have to listen you are established in a career position. But literally hundreds have come through USA Jet in the last 18 years that I have been here. They come as SE pilots, limited ME and no turbine experience. 5 years later they most likely have an ATP, 1000TJ PIC, and a couple jet type rating. The learn in a solid 121 training environment, and anyone who has flown a Captain at JUS has had no trouble with training completion at their next job. They have no contract obligation, and no pay for training. Many of them finish their college degree with the company assistance in paying for their college courses. And they make decent money for this level of the industry. Then they go places like NJ, a couple dozen from here, Spirit, Atlas, SWA, Jet Blue, DAL, FedEx, UPS. Everyone pays their dues someplace, some do it in the military, some do in the regionals, and some do in the on-demand.

So if you don't have the credentials and want to go to the next level listen to pilotyip. If you don't want this kind of experience, listen to imacdog.

 

[fischman]

You don't have to listen you are established in a career position. But literally hundreds have come through USA Jet in the last 18 years that I have been here. They come as SE pilots, limited ME and no turbine experience. 5 years later they most likely have an ATP, 1000TJ PIC, and a couple jet type rating. The learn in a solid 121 training environment, and anyone who has flown a Captain at JUS has had no trouble with training completion at their next job. They have no contract obligation, and no pay for training. Many of them finish their college degree with the company assistance in paying for their college courses. And they make decent money for this level of the industry. Then they go places like NJ, a couple dozen from here, Spirit, Atlas, SWA, Jet Blue, DAL, FedEx, UPS. Everyone pays their dues someplace, some do it in the military, some do in the regionals, and some do in the on-demand.

So if you don't have the credentials and want to go to the next level listen to pilotyip. If you don't want this kind of experience, listen to imacdog.

Your opinion is invalid.

 

[fischman]

You might be right, but there could have been a downside, and G4 reflected those fears. In fact there might still be a downside, hind site will be the proof. Hoping a win-win for both sides.

BTW: The Nuclear option by Ike in 1955 did get the ChiComs to stop shelling the islands of Kimou and Matsu (sp?) Ike was attacked as a crazy man for even discussing this option.

Your opinion is invalid.

 

[pilotyip]

Your opinion is invalid.

The sky is blue