Do you mean to tell me....

[B190Captain]

Delta does not pay for hotel during training?

YHGTBSM!!!

I thought crap like this was over.

 

[daviator]

Not entirely true. I start training next. Positive pass to training and hotel is paid for. YMMV.

 

[B190Captain]

Not entirely true. I start training next. Positive pass to training and hotel is paid for. YMMV.

Oh ok. Good to hear it. Congrats!

 

[dicko]

Not entirely true. I start training next. Positive pass to training and hotel is paid for until I finish Indoc, then I'm on my ownYMMV.

Fixed it for you. Congrats on the job. Your timing is excellent.

 

[J.Otto]

http://www.airlinepilotforums.com/major/81130-delta-training-crash-pad.html

 

[B190Captain]

Fixed it for you. Congrats on the job. Your timing is excellent.

Oh so it is true. How much time in training after indoc?

 

[General Lee]

Oh so it is true. How much time in training after indoc?

A newhire does have to pay for hotel or crash pads after Indoc currently. If the sim happens to be somewhere else other than ATL (some 717 sims are done in MIA), then the company picks that up plus per diem.

This was brought up by the union in the latest contract survey. One of the questions asked if that should be changed via upcoming negotiations, meaning it's on their radar.

While you're at it, look up newhire pay at all 3 legacies. DL's is $68 an hour now (as per APC), and will increase to $71 an hour Jan 1st. AA's is $40 an hour, and UA's is $66. DL also gets profit sharing (AA doesn't), along with UA, but UA hasn't had very profitable quarters earlier this year. That may change due to lower oil, which will be good for everyone.



Bye Bye---General Lee

 

[B190Captain]

A newhire does have to pay for hotel or crash pads after Indoc currently. If the sim happens to be somewhere else other than ATL (some 717 sims are done in MIA), then the company picks that up plus per diem.

This was brought up by the union in the latest contract survey. One of the questions asked if that should be changed via upcoming negotiations, meaning it's on their radar.

While you're at it, look up newhire pay at all 3 legacies. DL's is $68 an hour now (as per APC), and will increase to $71 an hour Jan 1st. AA's is $40 an hour, and UA's is $66. DL also gets profit sharing (AA doesn't), along with UA, but UA hasn't had very profitable quarters earlier this year. That may change due to lower oil, which will be good for everyone.



Bye Bye---General Lee

What does pay have anything to do with it? It's more of a matter of principle. Delta wants the pick of the litter but yet makes a great first impression by getting cheapy on them. Pretty lame, IMO.

 

[General Lee]

What does pay have anything to do with it? It's more of a matter of principle. Delta wants the pick of the litter but yet makes a great first impression by getting cheapy on them. Pretty lame, IMO.

True, but then pays people a lot more money, and has profit sharing (AA doesn't) and better management than anyone else. So, even though that policy is there and needs changing (which may happen), the rest is a lot better. SWA still requires a type rating if you don't have it already, which costs 4 times more. So, you need to take all that into account. If you can't see the big picture overall, I can't help you.


Bye Bye---General Lee

 

[B190Captain]

True, but then pays people a lot more money, and has profit sharing (AA doesn't) and better management than anyone else. So, even though that policy is there and needs changing (which may happen), the rest is a lot better. SWA still requires a type rating if you don't have it already, which costs 4 times more. So, you need to take all that into account. If you can't see the big picture overall, I can't help you.


Bye Bye---General Lee

I agree. I am just disappointed that this kind of crap is still going on and for a mega carrier such as Delta it was unexpected news.

 

[Kharma Police]

Does Delta reimburse you for the "Africa shots" that are now a pre requisite to have before training? What if you have complications?

 

[SpauldingSmails]

Does Delta reimburse you for the "Africa shots" that are now a pre requisite to have before training? What if you have complications?

Initial shot for yellow fever is on your own dime, reimbursed for subsequent vaccines. If you're allergic to eggs, you can be exempted from the requirement.

 

[ATRCA]

A newhire does have to pay for hotel or crash pads after Indoc currently. If the sim happens to be somewhere else other than ATL (some 717 sims are done in MIA), then the company picks that up plus per diem.

This was brought up by the union in the latest contract survey. One of the questions asked if that should be changed via upcoming negotiations, meaning it's on their radar.

While you're at it, look up newhire pay at all 3 legacies. DL's is $68 an hour now (as per APC), and will increase to $71 an hour Jan 1st. AA's is $40 an hour, and UA's is $66. DL also gets profit sharing (AA doesn't), along with UA, but UA hasn't had very profitable quarters earlier this year. That may change due to lower oil, which will be good for everyone.



Bye Bye---General Lee

90% of this post is noise GL. Honestly, there's no reason for a carrier like DAL which is enjoying well earned prosperity to force new hire pilots to pay for hotels. There is no excuse. That's a slap in the face that DALALPA should not tolerate.

 

[General Lee]

90% of this post is noise GL. Honestly, there's no reason for a carrier like DAL which is enjoying well earned prosperity to force new hire pilots to pay for hotels. There is no excuse. That's a slap in the face that DALALPA should not tolerate.

Agreed, and as I stated that was in the latest pilot contract survey, meaning it's on the radar. Still, the pay afterwards is a lot more than the rest, especially AA.



Bye Bye---General Lee

 

[ATRCA]

Agreed, and as I stated that was in the latest pilot contract survey, meaning it's on the radar. Still, the pay afterwards is a lot more than the rest, especially AA.



Bye Bye---General Lee

I don't disagree. I was just quite surprised to see that DAL didn't pay for hotel's. I'm confident you guys will correct that.