Virgin Awarded Love Field Gates

[FlyinGuy]

Remember that the WA dictates that an airline cannot operate out of both airports.

 

[scarlet]

So decreasing competition at DFW for AA (and where VA could add more and more flights out of DFW with more gates makes more sense I guess) We all know why AA wanted VA to move.

Going to laugh when United flies their 757-300 out of DAL to those same cities.

 

[scarlet]

The additional Southwest cities include: Charlotte, N.C.; Charleston, S.C.; Detroit; Indianapolis; Memphis; Minneapolis/St. Paul; Newark, N.J.; Philadelphia; Raleigh/Durham, N.C.; Sacramento, Calif.; San Francisco; and Seattle/Tacoma. A little math tells us that some of those cities would get only one round trip a day.

In addition, Southwest said that it would start service to five more cities out of Love Field in 2015: Boston; Oakland; Panama City Beach, Fla.; Portland, Ore.; and San Jose, Calif.

 

[Flopgut]

I sure as hell would have waited for Dallas to ok what the DOJ suggested. I don't care if the DOJ and the Pope endorsed VA, they are not from Texas. Shouldn't change the decision, but a huge misstep on VA's part going forward.

 

[SWA Bubba]

I sure as hell would have waited for Dallas to ok what the DOJ suggested. I don't care if the DOJ and the Pope endorsed VA, they are not from Texas. Shouldn't change the decision, but a huge misstep on VA's part going forward.

"...not from Texas"? Is that the criteria? Wait... Are you saying that those gates should go to a good Texas airline like Southwest?

Bubba

 

[Flopgut]

Uh, no Bubba I do think waiting until all parties, especially Dallas, agree VA gets them. GK hasn't conceded anything yet.

 

[Flopgut]

Sure would like to know *exactly* who is getting the cities of Dallas and Houston their outside consultants?!

http://aviationblog.dallasnews.com/...on-doj-list-for-dallas-love-field-gates.html/

The comments at the end of this are interesting... Is the Carty guy from VX the same one from AMR? He ought to know better than to claim a victory on this...

 

[Flopgut]

Duplicate

 

[scarlet]

http://www.dallasnews.com/business/airline-industry/20140427-southwest-favored-in-city-report.ece

SW would bring the most passengers!

 

[Freelovefield]

Carty had to step down from AMR over executive bonuses, no love lost between Cary and SWA.

 

[Flopgut]

I still laugh about when he [Carty] told cnbc years ago that "it's very expensive to put airplanes on food."

 

[Flyer1015]

Both AA and the DOJ have chosen VX for the gates. AA tried to transfer the gate lease to VX and the city council denied it. AA has a right in their contract a clause to sublease the two gates to another airline and it "cannot be unduly denied" by Dallas city officials. Legally, the city doesn't have a leg to stand on if both the DOJ and AA want VX to get the gates. They are only shooting themselves in the foot, but pressure no doubt from a legacy (not LCC) SWA and their lobbied/bought LEK consultants.

SW would bring the most passengers!

Maybe. Until SWA announces a full schedule (quite a few cities would get only one roundtrip per day from DAL) and until they publish the fares, it is hard to say. Besides, do you really define "competition" being one airline going from 80% of owning an airport's gates to 90%? Sounds like a complete monopoly.

 

[scarlet]

WHERE WERE VA/DELTA when the WRIGHT AD was in EFFECT---I ask again WHERE were they? Southwest had a thumb on them for years out of LOVE!!!!

If SW didn't stay there would be High raise building there, condos and everyone would be under AA mercy.

VA and any airline could have come to DAL anytime and fly to a neighbor state and then any where else in the USA, but they didn't want to do that to fly to LOVE then. I am not sure what VA would get out of Love...United is going to go to SFO, ORD, EWR, IAH from Dallas Love too. Southwest wanted to go to Raleigh, Charlotte, Panama City FL, MKE, BOS,SEA, ORF, IND...to COMPETE with AA out of DFW.

Hey if VA gets the gates, the traveling folks will get more options on 4 cities versus 15 cities

 

[scarlet]

Competition, compare the prices at home and decide which has the best price and drive or ride to that airport. They are a whopping 20 minutes away.

 

[huronip]

Maybe whoever loses will sue and tie the gates up in court for years and no one will get to use the gates. Sound familiar?