Allegiant sub charters

[jumppilot03]

Why have there been so many sub charters oit of PIE lately? Looks like Miami Air and Suncountry have been doing a lot of Allegiant flights.

 

[labbats]

Hubris

 

[BentOver]

Why have there been so many sub charters oit of PIE lately? Looks like Miami Air and Suncountry have been doing a lot of Allegiant flights.

Because Allegiant pilots do not have a contract to prevent this..... When you get a contract make sure there is language to prevent this.

 

[Chuck Steak]

I thought it was partly because their training department was completely shut down by the FAA and they are wayyyy understaffed?

 

[Noodles]

There's not enough pilots to cover all the flying. It's happening in ALL the Florida bases, as well as IWA, LAS and OAK. Don't know about BLI.

 

[Chuck Steak]

I have an old Bang-buddy who is cute and tight who wants to get on at G4. What does it take to get hired there, nowadays?

 

[Hovernut]

10% of the pilot group is currently in new-hire training!

 

[DASHDRIVER]

Wait a sec.

The whole training department is shut down?!?!

According to my neighbor in las, G4 FO, almost every of is looking for a different position in greener pastures. Is this true? How will allegiant function? Half chartered schedule? Is that even logistically possible?

 

[BRA]

They updated the seniority list twice in December. The total pilot number got to 401 but then the newest list shows 8 left and only 393 on the list. I would anticipate lots will leave this year including a lot of the newly hired that probably had multiple irons in the fire when they got/get hired here. Just from flying the line I know that resumes are out but just as well I am sure people will only leave for a few top picks.

 

[labbats]

Why have a seniority list when they disregard it when times get tough?

 

[reepicheep]

I think estimates of attrition are overblown. Yeah almost everyone's looking but at the same 3 airlines (ok, plus maybe Alaska if you have a Silver Bullet and SW if you don't mind a 15-year upgrade) along with 15,000 other apps.

Could take a few years to score an interview unless you know someone.

 

[BEECH-SLAPPED]

I think estimates of attrition are overblown. Yeah almost everyone's looking but at the same 3 airlines (ok, plus maybe Alaska if you have a Silver Bullet and SW if you don't mind a 15-year upgrade) along with 15,000 other apps.

Could take a few years to score an interview unless you know someone.

While I agree that this applies to the upper part of the seniority list, the bottom of the list will become a revolving door. Spirit and JetBlue will begin to look more attractive once the reality of 6+ year upgrade, zero work rules, and an increasingly inadequate compensation package kicks in.

 

[BRA]

While I agree that this applies to the upper part of the seniority list, the bottom of the list will become a revolving door. Spirit and JetBlue will begin to look more attractive once the reality of 6+ year upgrade, zero work rules, and an increasingly inadequate compensation package kicks in.

agreed.

 

[Chuck Steak]

Can the company actually force you to accept a TDY assignment out of base?

 

[Noodles]

In a word, yes. It's that or quit, which some have done.

 

[Chuck Steak]

I thought the Teamsters were voted in? What are they doing about it?

 

[Noodles]

At the moment, there's nothing anyone can do about it. TDY was never addressed in our current workrules, because it never happened in the past like it's happening now. Since there's no rules about it, there's nothing that can be done.

I'm sure the IBT will have something in contract language to prevent this, once a contract is agreed to.

 

[chqflyer]

I thought the Teamsters were voted in? What are they doing about it?

Teamsters?! Good luck with that. Ask any Republic pilot about what an awesomely effective outfit that is.

 

[reepicheep]

This is how a friend describes Allegiant: You are hired by Reserve Allegiant, to plug whatever hole caused by seasonal variations in flying, lack of foresight in hiring, simulator breakdowns, or other temporary crisis. Your life may not be your own for some time although it helps greatly if you live in Florida (don't even think about the west coast). You have flow-through rights to Lineholder Allegiant where eventually you may have some semblance of a life.

 

[Chuck Steak]

Is the "Sergeant" still employed???