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ASA/XJT Pilots- Who's financially prepared to walk?

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Max Q

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Getting pretty tired of the scare tactics. Our jobs can be stressful enough without the union/management intimidation. Since my first job as a commercial pilot, I have always kept a backup plan and a steady alternate source of income.

If the intimidation and scare tactics continue to a point at which the paycheck is no longer worth enduring the stress, I plan on telling XJT and this entire industry to shove it. After a decade of pulling in less than $20/hr flying, that point is drawing very near. The prospect of pay-cuts and further degradation of the already piss-poor working environment have me very excited at the idea of taking side work full time.

I am curious to see how many on here have something to fall back on TODAY.
 
Getting pretty tired of the scare tactics. Our jobs can be stressful enough without the union/management intimidation. Since my first job as a commercial pilot, I have always kept a backup plan and a steady alternate source of income.

If the intimidation and scare tactics continue to a point at which the paycheck is no longer worth enduring the stress, I plan on telling XJT and this entire industry to shove it. After a decade of pulling in less than $20/hr flying, that point is drawing very near. The prospect of pay-cuts and further degradation of the already piss-poor working environment have me very excited at the idea of taking side work full time.

I am curious to see how many on here have something to fall back on TODAY.


Yea, that will teach them.....
 
Teach them? You don't read so well, do you...


Ya I can read just fine, what part of my response are you confused about? The fact you want to walk away, acting like for some reason that will teach them a lesson?
 
I wasn't financially prepared when I got furloughed in '09, even though I saw the writing on the wall. I didn't miss a day of work in the transition. Now, my finances are a little better and I have backup plans: Two in aviation and two of them out of aviation. I haven't missed a meal yet in this business and don't plan to start now.
 
Ya I can read just fine, what part of my response are you confused about? The fact you want to walk away, acting like for some reason that will teach them a lesson?

You are the one that is confused. Where did I suggest that my intentions for leaving were to "teach them a lesson"? Here, I'll break it down for you.

1) Fear tactics/intimidation and poor pay/QOL are bad

2) Backup plans are good

3) When deteriorating working conditions no longer justify pay, resort to backup plan

4) Who else has a backup plan?
 
You are the one that is confused. Where did I suggest that my intentions for leaving were to "teach them a lesson"? Here, I'll break it down for you.

1) Fear tactics/intimidation and poor pay/QOL are bad

2) Backup plans are good

3) When deteriorating working conditions no longer justify pay, resort to backup plan

4) Who else has a backup plan?


Sarcasm not your strong point? Guess not....
 
No Mercyful Fate. Actually, you are right.

I've spent my entire life learning how to do **** outside of flying so that one day I can teach management a lesson.
 
No Mercyful Fate. Actually, you are right.

I've spent my entire life learning how to do **** outside of flying so that one day I can teach management a lesson.


Go take a midol and relax...you are way too high strung....
 
Okay, so back to things outside of Mercyful Fate's complete lack of reading comprehension.
 
I've got a strike fund. I just got an "on-call" job as well. And I still have contacts at my previous two jobs. And I also have a back up plan to that, that I hope I don't have to pull the trigger on. Not to mention that I've got apps at all the majors. But I guess I can always deliver pizzas while I go back to school. Or there's always unemployment, right?
 
Getting pretty tired of the scare tactics. Our jobs can be stressful enough without the union/management intimidation. Since my first job as a commercial pilot, I have always kept a backup plan and a steady alternate source of income.

If the intimidation and scare tactics continue to a point at which the paycheck is no longer worth enduring the stress, I plan on telling XJT and this entire industry to shove it. After a decade of pulling in less than $20/hr flying, that point is drawing very near. The prospect of pay-cuts and further degradation of the already piss-poor working environment have me very excited at the idea of taking side work full time.

I am curious to see how many on here have something to fall back on TODAY.
It's good that you are thinking of an end game strategy. We won't have to walk. We can just vote NO and renegotiate. I think this TA could be fixed in a matter of days. Clean up the language, fix the vacation issues, fix the duty-rig issues, and a few other things. It doesn't matter how long it takes them to fix the TA. We will be operating under current book the whole time. Airplanes will be moved around regardless of the outcome of this TA vote.
 
Merciful Fate is SH during one of his productive periods at work. It could actually be a collaboration between SH and CT. Heaven forbid they actually try and run an efficient airline. No, that would be too much like hard work.

Let's see, pilot costs between Skywest and Xjt are pretty comparable. The only difference between them is the management group really. So where does the company need to take cuts again? I'd say it starts with BH and works it's way down until you hit the #1 seniority pilot. That should just about take care of the expensive dead wood
 
Merciful Fate is SH during one of his productive periods at work. It could actually be a collaboration between SH and CT. Heaven forbid they actually try and run an efficient airline. No, that would be too much like hard work.

Let's see, pilot costs between Skywest and Xjt are pretty comparable. The only difference between them is the management group really. So where does the company need to take cuts again? I'd say it starts with BH and works it's way down until you hit the #1 seniority pilot. That should just about take care of the expensive dead wood

Ahhhh, no need to use code! Lets hear it!!

Also, its Mercyful not Merciful...
 
I like the idea that it's the ball sak known as the genital!
 

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