10/250

[gret]

Ahhh...that explains it. I thought he just misspelled "croquet" and I didn't have time to get a match in.

 

[rajflyboy]

Is that French for crickets?

Actually I was thinking Croatia

that would be a great place for some of the people that need to move on

 

[Hogprint]

It certainly is good to see the Trolls out once again... and under different monikers these days.

Just like old times.

It is amazing how every time we enter Sec 6/IBB, a new CMH employee shows up with a peep behind the green curtain to quell all fears of the pilots.

The names do change but the company message stays the same.

My prediction is the tone will go from helpful to contentious as negotiations heat up.

 

[gret]

It is amazing how every time we enter Sec 6/IBB, a new CMH employee shows up with a peep behind the green curtain to quell all fears of the pilots.

The names do change but the company message stays the same.

My prediction is the tone will go from helpful to contentious as negotiations heat up.

Geez...would you expect anything else...

Keeps life interesting, scares the living daylights out of a few, costs everyone a lot of money, and keeps bar bills high!

 

[OPECJet]

You absolutely insinuated the pilots use out fatigue provisions to manipulate the schedule. That was not my experience before the furlough, and it doesn't jive with what I'm hearing from my friends who remain. Bottom line. If a pilot is pulling the fatigue card, 9 times out of 10 you, or someone in a similar position blew the schedule.

If you are actually a management stooge (or one of the stooges silently reading) can you support your family on Ohio unemployment after Hogwarts runs NJA off the rails? What are your job prospects after helping blow apart the world's largest fractional provider? Think it might be time to do your part to get Harry Potter booted out on his ass, replaced with someone who will reach an equitable agreement with the labor groups to cement your own employment with a growing company That moat Uncle Warren refers to is getting awful damn narrow.

 

[CA1900]

You absolutely insinuated the pilots use out fatigue provisions to manipulate the schedule. That was not my experience before the furlough, and it doesn't jive with what I'm hearing from my friends who remain.

That's been my experience since I got here. We use the fatigue provisions to keep an unsafe schedule from endangering us. Simple as that. There are occasionally other issues, like a bad hotel, but 95% of my fatigue calls are generated by a schedule that doesn't take human factors into account.

Since our scheduling department doesn't incorporate the science behind circadian rhythms, I use tools like Jeppesen's CrewAlert, which does. (There's a free lite version as well.)

 

[Hogprint]

Geez...would you expect anything else...

Keeps life interesting, scares the living daylights out of a few, costs everyone a lot of money, and keeps bar bills high!

Actually, I would expect something else...

Trotting out the same tired playbook that was used eight years ago ( and arguably didn't work then), using the same tired arguments that have proven to bear no fruit, and now another "in the know" worker bee who comes in like a lamb but will crescendo like a lion before leaving like a lamb again as his predecessors did to never grace the forum again.

Did I miss anything?

You'd of thought they'd have learned from past mistakes. At least try a different approach this go around. That would keep it interesting. We've seen this movie before.

 

[msculley6905]

That's been my experience since I got here. We use the fatigue provisions to keep an unsafe schedule from endangering us. Simple as that. There are occasionally other issues, like a bad hotel, but 95% of my fatigue calls are generated by a schedule that doesn't take human factors into account.

Since our scheduling department doesn't incorporate the science behind circadian rhythms, I use tools like Jeppesen's CrewAlert, which does. (There's a free lite version as well.)

While keeping the body's clock on the same schedule can be imporant, the need to cover more flights with less assets prohibits that from being something we can do with any sort of regularity. Anyways, plenty of fatigue calls occur that show it's not aways a matter of being too tired for safe flight (fatigue on last day after 15 hrs rest night before, fatigue on evening spares multiple days in a row, etc), but it's never questioned, things get fixed, we move on. This is one of many reasons for big gaps in time from show to go times, or staying onFBO duty after arriving...you know, anything that some of you deem as wasteful/punative scheduling/pilot hating/term of the week.

 

[msculley6905]

It is amazing how every time we enter Sec 6/IBB, a new CMH employee shows up with a peep behind the green curtain to quell all fears of the pilots.

The names do change but the company message stays the same.

My prediction is the tone will go from helpful to contentious as negotiations heat up.

If this is refrence to me, i assue you I couldn't care less about the negotiations, other that both pilot and company get it done to something mutually beneficial. If it doesnt, there's no pilots for me to schedule, and you can figure out the rest from there.

 

[-FlyAuburn-]

While keeping the body's clock on the same schedule can be imporant, the need to cover more flights with less assets prohibits that from being something we can do with any sort of regularity. Anyways, plenty of fatigue calls occur that show it's not aways a matter of being too tired for safe flight (fatigue on last day after 15 hrs rest night before, fatigue on evening spares multiple days in a row, etc), but it's never questioned, things get fixed, we move on. This is one of many reasons for big gaps in time from show to go times, or staying onFBO duty after arriving...you know, anything that some of you deem as wasteful/punative scheduling/pilot hating/term of the week.

Here's an idea: recall the 495 furloughed pilots. Problem solved.