UPS Airbus down in Birmingham

[splatt]

Just heard UPS crashed one in Birmingham... Hope all are ok.

 

[splatt]

BIRMINGHAM, Ala. (AP) — A federal aviation official says a large UPS cargo plane has crashed near an airport in Birmingham, Ala.
Federal Aviation Administration spokeswoman Kathleen Bergen tells The Associated Press that the A300 plane crashed on approach to the airport before dawn Wednesday.
Bergen says the plane was en route from Louisville, Ky. to Birmingham.
Few other details were immediately available.
Bergen says she had no information on injuries.

 

[Newkem]

Overrun or undershoot?

http://blog.al.com/spotnews/2013/08/plane_crashes_near_birmingham-.html

 

[AV8OR]

Looks like it was short. RIP

 

[aa73]

My prayers are with the crew and their families... So sorry guys

 

[Limeyflyer]

God Speed to the crew. Thoughts and prayers to the families and co workers.

 

[flyboyike]

In all my times operating into and out of BHM, I've never landed on 18, it's always been 6/24. Anyone know if 6/24 was closed early this morning? The winds didn't seem to particularly favor 18, plus it would have been a longer taxi, so I'm curious why they selected 18 at all.

 

[WSurf]

In all my times operating into and out of BHM, I've never landed on 18, it's always been 6/24. Anyone know if 6/24 was closed early this morning? The winds didn't seem to particularly favor 18, plus it would have been a longer taxi, so I'm curious why they selected 18 at all.

It was only 4 knots of wind..... And they were coming from the North so it's easier usually to just go straight into a south runway. So that's why you'd take it.

 

[flyboyike]

It was only 4 knots of wind..... And they were coming from the North so it's easier usually to just go straight into a south runway. So that's why you'd take it.

I suppose so.

 

[400A]

Undeveloped area area north of that runway and rising terrain give a night approach to that runway a bit of a black hole effect. Rest in peace.

 

[WSurf]

Undeveloped area area north of that runway and rising terrain give a night approach to that runway a bit of a black hole effect. Rest in peace.

Let's hope not! I'm sure the Asiana people are ready to jump on pilot error by americans!

 

[SENECAII]

It appears to be a female on the radios in Louisville .UPS1354 Heavy.

http://archive-server.liveatc.net/ksdf/KSDF-Gnd-Twr-Aug-14-2013-0900Z.mp3

 

[400A]

Let's hope not! I'm sure the Asiana people are ready to jump on pilot error by americans!

Sadly true. For the record, I am not saying that is what happened. I have just flown in and out of there many times and noticed that.

 

[WSurf]

Anyone know of Notams on that runway.... VASI, ILS????

 

[400A]

Anyone know of Notams on that runway.... VASI, ILS????

LOC only to that runway.

 

[WSurf]

Sadly true. For the record, I am not saying that is what happened. I have just flown in and out of there many times and noticed that.

Yeah I know.... But usually during the landing phase that close to the airport about 95% of the time its going to end up Pilot Error.

 

[WSurf]

Female on the radio in Louisville .UPS1354 Heavy.

http://archive-server.liveatc.net/ksdf/KSDF-Gnd-Twr-Aug-14-2013-0900Z.mp3

And who cares???

 

[SENECAII]

And who cares???

Me fugger

i am sure the ntsb will be listening to the same thing shortly and along the flight as well to see if anythig appears out of place. idiot

 

[400A]

Yeah I know.... But usually during the landing phase that close to the airport about 95% of the time its going to end up Pilot Error.

Agreed, but I am trying to be respectful and let the investigators decide that.

Also like you.... Not sure what a female crew member has to do with anything.

 

[WSurf]

About 10 years ago I went into a airport that gave conflicting info from the ILS and the VASI. ILS Showed us on GS.. VASI showed us High.... Lets just say thank god there was morning light and that the ILS was working.
We reported it too tower and plane behind us confirmed it.... VASI was OTS for a few weeks after. You just never know.....

 

[WSurf]

Me fugger

i am sure the ntsb will be listening to the same thing shortly and along the flight as well to see if anythig appears out of place. idiot

And they won't start shooting webs of stupid about it being a female pilot either.

 

[SENECAII]

And they won't start shooting webs of stupid about it being a female pilot either.

And I am sure the wouldnt say "who cares" either.I never implied that being female would be a cause of any accident,you did.

 

[400A]

Me fugger

i am sure the ntsb will be listening to the same thing shortly and along the flight as well to see if anythig appears out of place. idiot

Never seen sex of the crew as part of an SMS checklist. Very unprofessional post.

 

[SENECAII]

Never seen sex of the crew as part of an SMS checklist. Very unprofessional post.

Nothing was ever said that it was a cause.Just that it was a female on the radio.If it was ,that would usually mean she wasnt the pilot flying. You guys are looking for a fight.calm down already.We are all just taxi and bus drivers here.

 

[mxer]

I could be wrong, but I suspect you guys may be misinterpreting his post. Crew hasn't been identified to the public yet. He may just be pointing out gender as a step towards identification as opposed to abilities. Or just noticing. Overall, there are far fewer female pilots. Again, I could be wrong.

 

[400A]

Nothing was ever said that it was a cause.Just that it was a female on the radio.If it was ,that would usually mean she wasnt the pilot flying. You guys are looking for a fight.calm down already.We are all just taxi and bus drivers here.

Would you have posted the link if it was a male voice? Very much implied.

 

[WSurf]

Nothing was ever said that it was a cause.Just that it was a female on the radio.If it was ,that would usually mean she wasnt the pilot flying. You guys are looking for a fight.calm down already.We are all just taxi and bus drivers here.

Both pilots are qualified.... There's two pilots up there. Both responsible for the plane.

But I understand you were just making a point. My bad!

 

[flyboyike]

Anyone know of Notams on that runway.... VASI, ILS????

LOC was NOTAM'ed OTS after the crash.

 

[SENECAII]

Would you have posted the link if it was a male voice? Very much implied.

Yes, i would have.I actually think females are better pilots than males.It doesnt take muscles to fly these things nowadays.

Sharon Wilson, who lives near the airport, said she was in bed before dawn when she heard what sounded like engines sputtering as the plane went over her house.
"It sounded like an airplane had given out of fuel. We thought it was trying to make it to the airport. But a few minutes later we heard a loud 'boom,'" she said.

 

[flyboyike]

About 10 years ago I went into a airport that gave conflicting info from the ILS and the VASI. ILS Showed us on GS.. VASI showed us High...

That's pretty common, in my experience.