UPS Airbus down in Birmingham

[400A]

Yes, i would have.I actually think females are better pilots than males.

My apologies then.

 

[K.V.]

Would you have posted the link if it was a male voice? Very much implied.

If that male voice had a british, or some other distinct accent, then to the point of narrowing down possible identification, it would have been just as valid.

Simmer down.

 

[CLARKGRSWOLD]

I can imagine fatigued may be a hot topic.

 

[WSurf]

That's pretty common, in my experience.

Mine too... But not to the degree this one was. And as far out

 

[WSurf]

I can imagine fatigued may be a hot topic.

Maybe?? And I wonder what the cargo was??

 

[NEDude]

I know a female UPS pilot who flies, or at least flew last I heard, the A300. Still no confirmation from mutual acquaintances regarding the accident today. But she was one of the best pilots I have ever flown with, bar none.

 

[countbat]

That's why is called ScareBus

 

[Ticker]

PAPI for 18 was supposedly working at the time of the crash...


KBHM

Runway 18/36

Dimensions: 7099 x 150 ft. / 2164 x 46 m
Surface: asphalt/grooved, in good condition
Weight bearing capacity:
Single wheel: 75.0
Double wheel: 170.0
Double tandem: 240.0
Runway edge lights: medium intensity
Gradient: GRADIENT 0.15% DOWN S.
RUNWAY 18
Latitude: 33-34.392837N
Longitude: 086-44.831402W
Elevation: 644.3 ft.
Gradient: 0.2% UP
Traffic pattern: left
Runway heading: 183 magnetic, 180 true
Markings: nonprecision, in good condition
Visual slope indicator: 4-light PAPI on left (3.20 degrees glide path)
Runway end identifier lights: yes
Touchdown point: yes, no lights
Instrument approach: LOC/DME
Obstructions: 16 ft. gnd, 615 ft. from runway, 26:1 slope to clear 76 ft. trees, 1736 ft. from runway, 392 ft. left of centerline, 20:1 slope to clear

 

[Mamma]

Would you have posted the link if it was a male voice? Very much implied.

Don't you have a rodeo clown to go persecute? You guys get your panties all in a wad over mindless crap. Lighten up Francis. This country is turning into a bunch of pansies.

 

[400A]

Don't you have a rodeo clown to go persecute? You guys get your panties all in a wad over mindless crap. Lighten up Francis. This country is turning into a bunch of pansies.

Easy there Richard. I have a daughter that is a C-130 crew chief. If you think they don't get crap blamed on them just because they are female, you need to put your bong down. Even when she has to train people who were in her class to start, she is "The female". 1st in her class to level five. First in her class to be awarded her flight suit.... Still the female.... So, don't talk to me about mindless crap.

 

[Mamma]

Easy there Richard. I have a daughter that is a C-130 crew chief. If you think they don't get crap blamed on them just because they are female, you need to put your bong down. Even when she has to train people who were in her class to start, she is "The female". 1st in her class to level five. First in her class to be awarded her flight suit.... Still the female.... So, don't talk to me about mindless crap.

Your a little too high strung on the PC stuff is all I'm saying. I currently fly and have flown military cargo for over 20 years with many female enlisted members. I spent 4 years as a maintenance officer with hundreds of enlisted airmen in my shops. I find your second-hand story highly doubtful at best. I think your daughter has been "overly PC indoctrinated" by you and sees everything as sexist, racist and whatever "ist" is out there. Shame on you. If you want to have a discussion on "sensitivity", political correctness and having your balls lopped off, feel free to start a new thread and I'll meet you there. Let's leave this one to the UPS story.

 

[WSurf]

Balls lopped off! Why I never!! Haha... Is that like the opposite of a salad toss ??

 

[400A]

Your a little too high strung on the PC stuff is all I'm saying. I currently fly and have flown military cargo for over 20 years with many female enlisted members. I spent 4 years as a maintenance officer with hundreds of enlisted airmen in my shops. I find your second-hand story highly doubtful at best. I think your daughter has been "overly PC indoctrinated" by you and sees everything as sexist, racist and whatever "ist" is out there. Shame on you. If you want to have a discussion on "sensitivity", political correctness and having your balls lopped off, feel free to start a new thread and I'll meet you there. Let's leave this one to the UPS story.

I think you know nothing about me or my daughter and you just confirmed my theory. I was not the one who introduced the female angle, nor was I the only one who thought it was tasteless.

For the record, I am about as anti PC as it comes.

My daughters record is where it belongs. In the USAF files. Not for your belief or consumption. You are just a loudmouth with a keyboard. Your post in the useless argument section prove it. You come on here just to stir trouble.

Glad to hear about your Military history.... My daughter was sworn in by her Lt.Col Uncle who flew 141's and 17's for 26 years. She has had the proper advice on how to behave in the military. I am just thankful her advice was not to act like you.

 

[BoilerUP]

The name of the FO has been made public as her family is involved in a rather popular south Tennessee whiskey company. Not sure if the CA's name has been released yet.

 

[400A]

The name of the FO has been made public as her family is involved in a rather popular south Tennessee whiskey company. Not sure if the CA's name has been released yet.

Just got a call from the guy I fly with. He flew with her at Fractionair. Obviously he is very upset. Spoke highly of her.

 

[Mamma]

I think you know nothing about me or my daughter and you just confirmed my theory. I was not the one who introduced the female angle, nor was I the only one who thought it was tasteless.

For the record, I am about as anti PC as it comes.

My daughters record is where it belongs. In the USAF files. Not for your belief or consumption. You are just a loudmouth with a keyboard. Your post in the useless argument section prove it. You come on here just to stir trouble.

Glad to hear about your Military history.... My daughter was sworn in by her Lt.Col Uncle who flew 141's and 17's for 26 years. She has had the proper advice on how to behave in the military. I am just thankful her advice was not to act like you.

Dang. I think you're nuts with serious anger issues. Relax a little as per my first post and you'll live longer.....and we won't think you are a real a$$h0le. If you just have to vent, there is a rodeo clown looking for your types to pile more on top of him.

 

[400A]

Dang. I think you're nuts with serious anger issues. Relax a little as per my first post and you'll live longer.....and we won't think you are a real a$$h0le. If you just have to vent, there is a rodeo clown looking for your types to pile more on top of him.

And you have proven your mental illness. Get help! Love the ignore button.

 

[Mamma]

You got me. You're the big winner. I lose. I'm out.

 

[metrodriver]

I have no clue about A300 performance, but is 7000' not a bit short for a Loc/DME approach for this type of plane? This runway might be the shortest way in, but if another, longer piece of concrete with an ILS was available why didn't they take that? I know the brown packages are in a hurry, I've flown them myself, but them ending up half a mile short doesn't weigh up against an additional 5 minutes of flight time. Just my 2 pennies.

 

[flythere]

Easy there Richard. I have a daughter that is a C-130 crew chief. If you think they don't get crap blamed on them just because they are female, you need to put your bong down. Even when she has to train people who were in her class to start, she is "The female". 1st in her class to level five. First in her class to be awarded her flight suit.... Still the female.... So, don't talk to me about mindless crap.

How did this ever end up in this conversation??? I'm sure you are very proud or your little girl!!

May their souls rest in peace!

 

[embpic1]

Stop with this pissing contest! Two of our own are dead. Who cares what their gender was. Fricking unbelievable....

 

[Stifler's Mom]

Sympathies to the UPS family.

 

[Waldom]

It appears to be a female on the radios in Louisville .UPS1354 Heavy.

http://archive-server.liveatc.net/ksdf/KSDF-Gnd-Twr-Aug-14-2013-0900Z.mp3

Your Point?

 

[say again]

You people are unreal! RIP to the crew, and prayers with all.

PS- I think many of you are looking too much into SENECAII's post.

 

[temcgrew]

!BHM 08/008 BHM NAV ILS RWY 24 DME OTS WEF 1308031700

!BHM 07/054 BHM RWY 24 PAPI OTS WEF 1308022100-1310042100

This along with runway markings missing, trench digging and other stuff on 6/24.

 

[livin'thesim]

I think you know nothing about me or my daughter and you just confirmed my theory. I was not the one who introduced the female angle, nor was I the only one who thought it was tasteless.

For the record, I am about as anti PC as it comes.

My daughters record is where it belongs. In the USAF files. Not for your belief or consumption. You are just a loudmouth with a keyboard. Your post in the useless argument section prove it. You come on here just to stir trouble.

Glad to hear about your Military history.... My daughter was sworn in by her Lt.Col Uncle who flew 141's and 17's for 26 years. She has had the proper advice on how to behave in the military. I am just thankful her advice was not to act like you.

Hair-trigger sensitivity is unbecoming.

 

[5w5flyer]

Anyone know if the First Officer was an alumni of the aviation program at MTSU?

 

[Ticker]

IIRC, 6/24 were also closed, at least overnight.

 

[tico]

Anyone know if the First Officer was an alumni of the aviation program at MTSU?

Yes she was.

 

[NERVOUS]

Nothing was ever said that it was a cause.Just that it was a female on the radio.If it was ,that would usually mean she wasnt the pilot flying. You guys are looking for a fight.calm down already.We are all just taxi and bus drivers here.

"You" may think of yourself as just a taxi/bus driver here. Go peddle back to your GA boards...you are not welcome in a professional 121 discussion involving the loss of life of two professional airmen.