Pinnacle Confirms move to MSP

[i fly boxes]

http://www.myfoxmemphis.com/story/20674250/pinnacle-airlines-to-move-to-minneapolis

I can only imagine that the realingment notice containing the closures of MEM and ATL is coming out tomorrow or next friday at 5pm at the latest.

It says we will be in a building at the airport, where is there a building on the airport or will we be in a hangar, lol

 

[Inconceivable]

NWA Building C - aka the original Republic HQ

 

[jynxyjericho]

We are actually going to run airline operations out of the Mesaba crew room below C25 until they shut us down next year.

Anyway, on the bright side, Delta's going to give us a practice interview.

 

[Flyer1015]

Name same or changing?

 

[Plainsman]

Flying Dinkleberries?

 

[Waylon]

Low Ball

 

[i fly boxes]

There is a rumor going around that delta mainline alpa might try a single carrier status petition with us. In laymans terms, a staple. I don't believe it myself, has anyone else heard this rumor. Seven?

 

[filejw]

There is a rumor going around that delta mainline alpa might try a single carrier status petition with us. In laymans terms, a staple. I don't believe it myself, has anyone else heard this rumor. Seven?

Be the best thing to happen to you really. Can't staple you it's against the law....

 

[SEVEN]

There is a rumor going around that delta mainline alpa might try a single carrier status petition with us. In laymans terms, a staple. I don't believe it myself, has anyone else heard this rumor. Seven?

Also heard this as well. Highly unlikely. Who knows though...

 

[xjhawk]

ha! against the law? That is unless its a "letter of agreement". I often wondered how Delta could be taking so many aircraft on delivery, not parking the 9's, and not hiring. They could not be that over staffed or use their reserves that well. We shall see. I would not expect Delta to give up on paying pilots peanuts for 7 years. I also could see a secret "B" scale with fences to preserve the rates we have now with a seniority number. Another way around a staple would be to "hire" us all in seniority order. Delta just bought a refinery, changing the rules as we all know them for airlines-I should expect something similar here-

 

[i fly boxes]

That's what I am thinking, delta is very forward thinking whereas American is so far behind, just now starting to outsource to everyone. Delta could be the first to bring everything in. Once again highly unlikely but not impossible

 

[i fly boxes]

ha! against the law? That is unless its a "letter of agreement". I often wondered how Delta could be taking so many aircraft on delivery, not parking the 9's, and not hiring. They could not be that over staffed or use their reserves that well. We shall see. I would not expect Delta to give up on paying pilots peanuts for 7 years. I also could see a secret "B" scale with fences to preserve the rates we have now with a seniority number. Another way around a staple would be to "hire" us all in seniority order. Delta just bought a refinery, changing the rules as we all know them for airlines-I should expect something similar here-

Remember though, those 737 900 Are replacements for the 757s. The 717s will take care of the DC-9's. And only the last third of them will be growth aircraft. They also have 200 Plus guys on military leave that can come back anytime that they want to and they are reducing capacity year over year in 2013

 

[General Lee]

Remember though, those 737 900 Are replacements for the 757s. The 717s will take care of the DC-9's. And only the last third of them will be growth aircraft. They also have 200 Plus guys on military leave that can come back anytime that they want to and they are reducing capacity year over year in 2013

Supposedly, not all 757s will be replaced. The 757-300s and the 757-200s with winglets will stay. (The 17 ex TWA 757-200s bought from AA were among the latest 757s built in the early 90s I believe) The initial 100 739ERs will be replacing one for one 757s, A320s that are hitting the cycle limit, and some domestic 767-300s that also at close to the cycle limit. There still is an option for 30 more 739ERs, plus this supposed upcoming order for 24-30 737/320s that could be built just prior to Boeing or Airbus switching their production lines to their NEO product. The 717s will be replacing 76 seaters(which along with 70 seaters will replace 50 seaters) and will be "growth" planes, while 14 more MD90s will be replacing the DC9s, all subject to change of course....(as told by a little birdy)


Bye Bye---General Lee

 

[big shacks]

Memphis Base GONZO! As expected.

 

[WMUSIGPI]

Hopefully the NMFC goes with it.

 

[i fly boxes]

I for one just want to express my sympathy for the mem and ATl pilots. Families are always affected by displacements but in this case, families that are deeply rooted to the area. Good luck

 

[higney85]

Hopefully the NMFC goes with it.

Do you even know who the NMFC is ( in theory) on the isl?

 

[xjhawk]

yeah, that higney guy..... I hear he is the leader. Just joking. Good luck Ken. I dont envy the situation you are all in. I am assuming the HQ change had more to do with Delta pulling the flying out of MEM than it did with the economics of which building was more expensive. But even on that note I am sure Building C is all paid for while the lease in MEM is cheap...its still a lease.

 

[Northern Lights]

The state of MN granted the company $550,000 to move, as long as they brought at least 200 jobs to MSP.

http://www.startribune.com/local/188445611.html

 

[sinkrate]

Be the best thing to happen to you really. Can't staple you it's against the law....

Not quite true. If both pilot groups negotiate an agreement and both pilot groups ratify it you can 'staple' a seniority list in a merger. The way most PCL pilots feel right now that would be fine with them. The law says if the two groups cannot agree it must go to arbitration. If it did go to arbitration the PCL pilots would get stapled with fences anyway.

 

[Flyer1015]

Delta stapling a reigonal? Why not interview and pick the qualified pilots?

 

[higney85]

Delta stapling a reigonal? Why not interview and pick the qualified pilots?

That would ruin the rumor.

 

[xjhawk]

flyer....pick the "qualified pilots" typical crap talker. I wish people would not quote that guy. what a tool.

 

[DoinTime]

Delta stapling a reigonal? Why not interview and pick the qualified pilots?

Because, then people like you would never get a job at a major.

 

[1.3XVso]

Because, then people like you would never get a job at a major.

I have flown with flyer and he's more qualified than you company clowns who keeps dreaming of a delta job. Grow a pair of sacks. Tool!

 

[Flyer1015]

Because, then people like you would never get a job at a major.

I applied to a bunch of places, and got called for an interview. Apparently they must have liked what they saw on the resume, which contradicts your statement.

What I wrote wasn't meant as an insult, it's just the truth (why not interview qualified pilots instead of a flow). This is precisely why Delta did not offer a flowthrough program for 9E. Sure, they could have, like how NWA did for Compass and Mesaba. But as soon as Delta spun them off, the flowthrough ended. If Delta doesn't want to give a guaranteed job via flow, how can you justify that they'd be willing to staple the entire pilot list? That's wishful thinking, and nothing more than a "hook" for a future concessionary yes vote.

 

[sinkrate]

Delta stapling a reigonal? Why not interview and pick the qualified pilots?

The company would fight it tooth and nail. If ALPA and moak are half serious about fighting the whipsaw and B scale they would pursue it vigorously. Why wouldn't they support it if the 9e pilots would accept a staple.

9e pilots broached this with the NWA MEC when NW bought them the first time. The NWA pilots refused to support it - they thought it was an attack on their seniority list. They were still licking their wounds from the blue-green-red book republic/southern merger.

 

[twott driver]

You guys are living in a dream world. You are going to get shut down, your interviews with Delta will never materialize, and you'll all be reaping what you sowed when you apply to other regionals and are subjected to the conditions and pay you voted for. Good luck.

 

[gojo]

You guys are living in a dream world. You are going to get shut down, your interviews with Delta will never materialize, and you'll all be reaping what you sowed when you apply to other regionals and are subjected to the conditions and pay you voted for. Good luck.

And what dream world are you living in?? What makes it possible for you to precict the future?? That's right you can't. So why don't you stop spreading gloom and doom and write about something you can back up with concrete facts.

 

[twott driver]

I'm living in a world where management have the brains and the power, and pilots have no balls. As I said, good luck. I think we are all going to need it