some reported united contract details

[General Lee]

I'll take the bait. Currently a 767-400 pays $2/hr more than a 747. So what's wrong with them paying the same in the future? However like Flop said, no one cares what your motivation to vote no is, as long as you do vote no!

I agree. It's not fair to place one plane (744) highest on the totem pole if the CAL guys (who don't have 744s) can't get on it due to a possible fence (5 years at DL). So, give highest pay to 777s and 744s, something both have. I suspect though that UAL has 40 777s and 25 744s, while CAL has FEWER of those (maybe 50 777s, but they are getting 787s). So, to EVEN IT OUT, I suspect CAL threw in their 20 or so 764s. Maybe it's a numbers game? But, that is GREAT that a lot of planes could get TOP PAY. That means more people get top pay, and maybe not as much of a need to upgrade to the largest plane. Everyone wins, including management.


Bye Bye---General Lee

 

[cal 73]

!!! CAL MEC !!!

Vote this down!! Do not even bring this to us!!

CAL 73 fo iah

 

[Ex737Driver]

ual trip trade rules? Wtfo? Talk about lowering quality of life for both line holders and reserves. Huge hit. Take reserves down to 70 from 76 hours and it now concessionary on top on concessions. Take 2 days of vacation away? More concessions. Piss the hell off. :uzi:

 

[Flopgut]

I agree. It's not fair to place one plane (744) highest on the totem pole if the CAL guys (who don't have 744s) can't get on it due to a possible fence (5 years at DL). So, give highest pay to 777s and 744s, something both have.

Or, let's give top pay to airplane NEITHER airline has!! Post one shows the A380 as the top airplane pay scale... This is just absurd enough to make sense, I'm afraid, and makes me fear the whole damn post is right! This looks exactly like the kind of thing a CAL mgt negotiator would write. God help us. We have a LOT bigger problems than I ever imagined we might at this point. If some of these bulletpoints were accompanied by a HUGE aircraft [mainline] order, or the CAL 50 seat scope clause, or 20% of the company, or full retro, or SOMETHING like that, it might be closer. We've far eclipsed the reasonable call for patience that we have answered. There literally is not one good rumor about this deal. If it is indeed bad, everybody has to go. Recall everyone of them!

 

[Continental]

if it is indeed bad, everybody has to go. Recall everyone of them!

bingo!

 

[KarmaPolice]

What is the logic of DAL minus 8.5%? I thought ours was a slap in the face. You guys should get DAL minus a dollar MINIMUM. RIGHT? Am I missing something?

 

[XJTAv8r]

The TA just passed both MECs. It's now going to be sent out to the pilots for a vote.

 

[Continental]

time to recall those spineless MFers that voted for this.

 

[Dewey Oxberger]

The TA just passed both MECs. It's now going to be sent out to the pilots for a vote.

GD MFer's!!! So does anyone know newhire pay, QOL, upgrade time at Skywest? :angryfire

 

[Dewey Oxberger]

BTW "that other forum" that our union leadership loves to hate is now down, says internal server error. Cyberattack by ALPA?