Zemeckis air disaster flick.

[Whine Lover]

Yeah, the title is a little misleading. The movie has much more to do with alcoholism and substance abuse than "flight".

No...I suspect the title may be perfect.

> Flight - n. : The act or an instance of running away; an escape.


...as in alcoholism or substance abuse.


I haven't seen the film but, I would hazard a guess that flight/escape may be the central theme/metaphor.


??

Let me guess...does he have numerous problems that he seems to be running away from marital, family, financial or otherwise?

Problems he is trying to escape with the use of drugs and alcohol?

Does he consider running from the various government agencies and laws that are now threatening him?

Maybe he just disappears at the end of the film....flight to avoid prosecution?

Okay...DON'T ANSWER ANY OF THE ABOVE.

I'm seeing it on Monday.





YKW

 

[OldManPilot]

Movie was horrible.

 

[Whine Lover]

Movie was horrible.

For pilots I'm sure...not so much the rest of the planet.

We're lucky...we only have to sit through a movie every 5-6 years about airplanes and an occasional TV show.

Imagine how cops and nurses and doctors must have to sit for hours and hours watching all the totally impossible, procedurally incorrect stuff on TV and in Movies about their chosen professions?

Half the stuff on television is unwatchable for those poor folks!



YKW

 

[Abernathy]

Totally unrealistic movie. I have NEVER had a flight attendant who looked like Nadine Valezquez.

 

[C-150ETOPS]

Totally unrealistic movie. I have NEVER had a flight attendant who looked like Nadine Valezquez.

No sheet. Here's my world:

Had a FA in the cockpit in the early am on a transcon, one of those kinda cool multiple planet and moon line ups in the sky. She asks me and the FO, "isn't that neat, do you guys remember how exciting it was when Sputnik launched?"


Uhhhhhh, no.

 

[Blue Dude]

No sheet. Here's my world:

Had a FA in the cockpit in the early am on a transcon, one of those kinda cool multiple planet and moon line ups in the sky. She asks me and the FO, "isn't that neat, do you guys remember how exciting it was when Sputnik launched?"


Uhhhhhh, no.

Heh. It's either that or they think Sputnik is some kind of hipster vodka brand.

 

[Dash Power]

Imagine how cops and nurses and doctors must have to sit for hours and hours watching all the totally impossible, procedurally incorrect stuff on TV and in Movies about their chosen professions?

Half the stuff on television is unwatchable for those poor folks!

True dat.

Go see ARGO instead. Great movie.

 

[JudgeSmails218]

Once you get past the flying inaccuracies in the first
15 minutes, it becomes a compelling movie. I thought DW
did a great job. It's more about a man battling his inner
demons and lies than a movie about aviation. I give it
a "thumbs up".

 

[LearLove]

Inverted flight scene seems to be a Douglas BUT....with Winglets?



I'm sure they had to purposely muddy the waters and obfuscate the identification of the aircraft ....for legal reasons.

What say you....the intelligentsia of Flight Info?

Whine

NO NO NO, they put the winglets on to make it look a CRJ so they could pay the actors less money.

TMZ is reporting that they wanted to paint the jet canyon blue/red/orange or poopy brown but Denzel refused to pay for his type rating.

 

[Juniority]

It's more about a man battling his inner
demons and lies than a movie about aviation

My inner demon is having to watch/listen to/deal with other people's inner demons. The fewer 'inner demon' encounters the better. Life's more fun without them.

 

[SWA Bubba]

NO NO NO, they put the winglets on to make it look a CRJ so they could pay the actors less money.

TMZ is reporting that they wanted to paint the jet canyon blue/red/orange or poopy brown but Denzel refused to pay for his type rating.

Hmmm...

A little touchy all of a sudden, are we?...

Bubba

 

[Dornier 335]

Totally unrealistic movie. I have NEVER had a flight attendant who looked like Nadine Valezquez.

You should look south of the border, Asia or even Europe. As VS once said on a billboard outside LHR:

"Fly Virgin to America to see your grandmother" or "fly American to see your grandmother work". Sad but true.

 

[kwick]

The movie was an unsuccessful
attempt to update "The Pilot, "
and failed miserably!

More like a MADP infomercial.
(Mothers Against Drunk Pilots."

What a waste of acting and directing
talent.

 

[densoo]

It's an Alcoholics Anonymous educational movie complete with alcoholic functionality, denial, codependency, 12-step meeting, failed sobriety, relapses. It's worth seeing, but that's what it is. The pilot angle is simply anyjob, anyone, anytime background noise. Look for this to shown at every airline's indoc followed by group discussion of "the issues" of how to prevent, report, legal responsibilities for those around you, even union and NTSB first contacts after an incident.

 

[HA25]

so I haven't seen the movie yet, is the airplane some kind of fusion jet? DC9 with CRJ cockpit and winglets or is the cockpit and such accurate? I always have a hard time seeing past the L1011 sized cockpit scenes with 737 exterior shots...

 

[densoo]

so I haven't seen the movie yet, is the airplane some kind of fusion jet? DC9 with CRJ cockpit and winglets or is the cockpit and such accurate? I always have a hard time seeing past the L1011 sized cockpit scenes with 737 exterior shots...

There were inconsistencies but there was more movie set realism than usual. I don't like the dual cue on the EFIS ADI. If it had been a single-cue chevron there's no way they would have crashed.

 

[HA25]

..... I don't like the dual cue on the EFIS ADI. If it had been a single-cue chevron there's no way they would have crashed.

my gosh, really? I find that duel cue (Honeywell) type FD to be idiot proof.. even a monkey can fly an airplane with it.

 

[Lear70]

There were inconsistencies but there was more movie set realism than usual. I don't like the dual cue on the EFIS ADI. If it had been a single-cue chevron there's no way they would have crashed.

Ummm, it's actually much easier to fly once you get used to it, and I find it much more accurate if you stay right on the crosshairs.

Is it less intuitive and does it take longer to get used to? Sure. But once you're used to it, you get to really like it when the crap hits the fan and you're really going down to the brass tacks hand-flying a CAT II ILS.

 

[densoo]

my gosh, really? I find that duel cue (Honeywell) type FD to be idiot proof.. even a monkey can fly an airplane with it.

I guess the names say it well enough. Dual cue vs single cue. Dual you're working two items in the ADI cross check, single you're working just one--putting the delta symbol into a single FD command. Just seems more intuitive to me. I've flown several years with each. Since it's just a software adjustment I have wondered which airlines have chosen one vice the other.

 

[Lear70]

For pilots I'm sure...not so much the rest of the planet.

We're lucky...we only have to sit through a movie every 5-6 years about airplanes and an occasional TV show.

Imagine how cops and nurses and doctors must have to sit for hours and hours watching all the totally impossible, procedurally incorrect stuff on TV and in Movies about their chosen professions?

Half the stuff on television is unwatchable for those poor folks!



YKW

My fiance' and I take turns doing that. She's a physician, so shows that have medical sequences drive her crazy, and as a pilot, movies like these she has to tell me to shut up when I start picking it apart.

I'll catch it when it comes out on video, but the planel looks basically like a 717 with winglets just watching some of the previews.

 

[HA25]

I guess the names say it well enough. Dual cue vs single cue. Dual you're working two items in the ADI cross check, single you're working just one--putting the delta symbol into a single FD command. Just seems more intuitive to me.

there is your problem... don't look at it as two... look at the point at which the "two" cross as one! and put that little airplane "box" symbol in the middle of that intersection... it's like a video game. I've done about 50/50 both over 10 types, and always found it easier.... but we are all different and all learn differently, so maybe it's just a tomato and tomaaato thing..

 

[Lear70]

Or maybe he's just not eating enough bananas.



I keeed, I keeed.

 

[densoo]

so maybe it's just a tomato and tomaaato thing..

I think so.

 

[Quimby]

There were inconsistencies but there was more movie set realism than usual. I don't like the dual cue on the EFIS ADI. If it had been a single-cue chevron there's no way they would have crashed.

+1

 

[Crash Pad]

Saw the movie.

It's like watching a documentary. After destroying the vagina of the hottest FA in the history of aviation, most pilots take a call from the X to tell them to piss off on Johnny's private school. Quick line of blow to get ya to the van by 8 and its time to give some airplane rides.

320 below 10, no problem. Cruise cocktail, why not. FO who is basically pooping his pants, standard fare (realism note FO was a Jesus freak). Chart sun shade, seriously great idea.

In short this movie highlights your standard 2 day with an accident.

 

[BUDDHA145]

Shhhhhhh!! Quit giving up all our secrets men!!!


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[HA25]

Saw the movie.

It's like watching a documentary. After destroying the vagina of the hottest FA in the history of aviation, most pilots take a call from the X to tell them to piss off on Johnny's private school. Quick line of blow to get ya to the van by 8 and its time to give some airplane rides.

320 below 10, no problem. Cruise cocktail, why not. FO who is basically pooping his pants, standard fare (realism note FO was a Jesus freak). Chart sun shade, seriously great idea.

In short this movie highlights your standard 2 day with an accident.

start working at one of your favorite ACMI's like Evergreen, Kalitta, or Gemini back in the day... and you pretty much have one of the better behaved ones there....

 

[zasca]

The massive gut Denzel grew was HIGHLY realistic!

 

[IBNAV8R]

There were inconsistencies but there was more movie set realism than usual. I don't like the dual cue on the EFIS ADI. If it had been a single-cue chevron there's no way they would have crashed.

Maybe it's just law of primacy but, dual-cue is WAY easier and much more accurate. Of course, it's important to understand what it's doing, why it's doing it, and because you still have a scan (I hope), anticipate what it SHOULD be doing next.

I figure single cue FDs were designed for idiots who thought dual cues were just too complicated. I guess no one told them that you STILL have to control TWO different axes at the same time - hence the allegory of certain Asian headgear and pink lips.

 

[HA25]

Maybe it's just law of primacy but, dual-cue is WAY easier and much more accurate. Of course, it's important to understand what it's doing, why it's doing it, and because you still have a scan (I hope), anticipate what it SHOULD be doing next.

I figure single cue FDs were designed for idiots who thought dual cues were just too complicated. I guess no one told them that you STILL have to control TWO different axes at the same time - hence the allegory of certain Asian headgear and pink lips.

that's a bit harsh.... I think some people just prefer what they first used or learned on... myself, I didn't like the dual cue at first, but just as I didn't like glass cockpit, over time I started to prefer it.