Net Aircraft Gain/Loss at Skyw inc

[Ops check good]

Except for enough flying for 50 pilots. AKA 5 aircraft.

Everyone is always so negative. You should just be happy that a new home was set in place for some of the displaced 200's. If you want to be so angry about it direct it at DL, they are the ones that decided they didnt like the 200's any longer. How many pilots, FA's and mechanics would have been put out if they just parked the planes? But I suppose the easy way out is to get pi$$ed and complain about management.

 

[russtgol]

Except for enough flying for 50 pilots. AKA 5 aircraft. A LOSS of 5 aircraft. ********************, if Chip said sh!t tastes great some of us would say, "No it tastes WONDERFULL!"

Funny that everyone wants mainline to take back the flying but then you lose 5 A/C and cry a river. Can't have it both ways scooter..

 

[Nevets]

It's difficult to keep track of what we're losing and what we're getting.

Have I got these numbers straight, or am I missing some

Delta TA: Gaining 34 Cr7/9, losing 66 Cr2 for a net loss of 28 aircraft
Eagle: 23 Cr2 for LAX and DFW

So total loss of 5 Cr2's at this point, and 16 of the 34 CR7/9's still not officially awarded to either XJT or SKYW?

Just to add, 25 of the 66 belong to Inc. I'm positive that the 23 were sourced from those 25. They'll probably use the remaining 2 as spares. So it's probably really a loss of 3 aircraft.

 

[centralpilot]

It's difficult to keep track of what we're losing and what we're getting.

Have I got these numbers straight, or am I missing some

Delta TA: Gaining 34 Cr7/9, losing 66 Cr2 for a net loss of 28 aircraft
Eagle: 23 Cr2 for LAX and DFW

So total loss of 5 Cr2's at this point, and 16 of the 34 CR7/9's still not officially awarded to either XJT or SKYW?

At the risk of doing math in public I must confess that I'm not following you here. +34 -66 is a net loss of 32, not 28. The addition (or retention really) of 23 CR2s brings us to a projected net loss of 9 CR2s between now and 2015, unless I'm leaving something out.

 

[cbrown1]

So where are the aircraft coming from? There is still the matter of Skywest and Expressjet not being on the same list.

Are those 28 a/c coming from skywest or expressjet or split between the two?

 

[centralpilot]

So where are the aircraft coming from? There is still the matter of Skywest and Expressjet not being on the same list.

Are those 28 a/c coming from skywest or expressjet or split between the two?

11 XJT CR2s & 12 SkyWest CR2s transfer from DL to AA contracts. That leaves 43 CR2 subtractions (SkyWest still owns 2 though) by 2015; No clue if it will be split evenly or not.

18 of the 34 new DL CR7/9s have been placed, 9 at XJT and 9 at SkyWest. That leaves 16 more to be placed; no clue if it will be split evenly or not.

The fairest scenario (and the pattern established thus far) would be evenly split additions and subtractions so that each airline is -4 or 5 aircraft when everything plays out. The worst case scenario is one side adding all 16 remaining CR7/9s while the other subtracts all 41-43 CR2s. Obviously if we get anything close to the latter scenario there will be significant labor strife at one of the airlines, which I imagine Inc would like to avoid right now. It would also cause costly hiring/training/furloughing at both airlines. Hopefully this will become clearer soon.

 

[Ops check good]

None of us know which side of the company is going to gain/lose A/C yet. What is well known is that "inc" is always going to do what is best for the airline that has its name in front of "inc".

 

[Freebrd]

t "inc" is always going to do what is best for the airline that has its name in front of "inc".

dunno about that Ops, that recent Denver meeting may mean something different eventually, I'm sure the parties (ALPA etc) are restricted by secret handshake agreements. Still probally best regional to be at because of mainline sellouts like JennyLeigh (aka Mike Boyd, RJ expert).

 

[Nevets]

None of us know which side of the company is going to gain/lose A/C yet. What is well known is that "inc" is always going to do what is best for the airline that has its name in front of "inc".

They will do what's best for the stockholders.

 

[ASADriver]

They will do what's best for the stockholders.

As they should. I bought a lot of stock between $8 and $6 and I hope it keeps going up. My money is on Jerry.

 

[Nevets]

As they should. I bought a lot of stock between $8 and $6 and I hope it keeps going up. My money is on Jerry.

Yes, he should. That's what he is paid for. Just pointing out that it's not because "inc" is always going to do what is best for the airline that has its name in front of "inc".

 

[Ops check good]

that recent Denver meeting may mean something different eventually

Dont get your hopes up for anything, that meeting was probably just to let all involved know about the new AMR partnership.

 

[russtgol]

So where is this whipsaw that you all cry about?

 

[Nevets]

So where is this whipsaw that you all cry about?

All around you. You are within it. You are part of it. Probably why you don't see it.

 

[JoeMerchant]

All around you. You are within it. You are part of it. Probably why you don't see it.

In other industries it's simply called "competition". We are competing with each other for a shrinking piece of the pie. ALPA could have done things years ago to minimize this "competition", but they chose to ignore the problem until it was really too late to fix it....Now we compete....