Big Announcement this week in Bankruptcy

[SmitteyB]

Will pinnacle and gojet just go away? Please

Pardon me? What did Pinnacle do? Other than raise the bar?

 

[Clutch]

Pardon me? What did Pinnacle do? Other than raise the bar?

Followed by lowering it in a few months. Get a sales job.

 

[Jon Rivoli]

If they agree to the concessions the company is asking for, they will have lowered the bar lower than it has ever been, worse than Mesa back in the day, and they should go away if that is what is required for them to emerge from bankruptcy.

 

[gojo]

Followed by lowering it in a few months. Get a sales job.

You are a idiot. How dare you talk like it's the pilots fault we are in bankruptcy. There isn't a single pilot here that wished for this or caused it. Why would suggest we get a sales job. This whole mess was/is caused by Delta and the fact there is no solidarity in this industry. I'd like to know just what you'd do if you were in this situation, because talk is cheap

 

[Clutch]

I would have some dignity

 

[gojo]

If they agree to the concessions the company is asking for, they will have lowered the bar lower than it has ever been, worse than Mesa back in the day, and they should go away if that is what is required for them to emerge from bankruptcy.

I agree. No sense working for free

 

[gojo]

I would have some dignity

You're not showing much with your posts

 

[flyboyike]

I agree that it is very possible that we go down to 41 900's especially if they don't get the concessions they want, but the real value to Delta would be to have Pinnacle locked in to lower rates for several years to come. That way it sets a new lower bar for other companies when in contract negotiations. I think the whip saw will continue

That was supposed to be the real value of Comair to Delta as well. Especially since our union proposed all but a B scale (they called it B benefits, but that's just semantics).

 

[Terantious]

So what happened to this "BIG ANNOUNCEMENT" that was supposed to be by the end of the week?

 

[LanceAir]

Apparently "Clutch" isn't so...

Also, if PNCL ratifies a TA, I highly doubt it would lower the bar under Mesa's worst. Don't expect anything to happen till late November / December.

 

[RJLoser]

I would have some dignity

I'd start your campaign with your fellow ASA pilots.

Posted from another place:

Just finished a flight from MDW-DTW. A non-rev ASA pilot was sitting behind me. During boarding he decided to take the opportunity to check in with his mother...always a nice thing to do.

The gentleman was kind enough to be speaking so loud everyone around him could share in his conversation. Of note:

1. ASA "does not have enough employees" to operate their summer schedule.

2. Pilots are not answering the phone when ASA calls them to pick up extra routes. To do so would "send the message that they can get away with understaffing us."

3. A couple of weeks ago half of the ASA FAs did not get their direct deposit payroll. ASA had to cut manual checks and mail them to the employee's homes. Seems this pilot thinks this was done intentionally and that "they would never do that to the pilots be we have a strong union and we'd sue them immediately."

While I fully support this gentleman's right to express his frustrations with his employer, I'm struck by the stupidity of doing so with a plane full of your customers. Are people so stupid that they honestly think that others can't hear their conversations and just because they're in street clothes we can't figure out they work for the airline.

Yet another fine example of ASA and their employees demonstrating why they have earned the reputation they have.

 

[Freebrd]

I would have some dignity

more like you'd display your ignorance and show everybody here the true clueless ignorant moron you really are

 

[Freebrd]

You're not showing much with your posts

yep.......classless moron that he is

 

[1.3XVso]

Where are my spineless company rats at?

 

[bigshooter107]

I'd start your campaign with your fellow ASA pilots.

Posted from another place:

Just finished a flight from MDW-DTW. A non-rev ASA pilot was sitting behind me. During boarding he decided to take the opportunity to check in with his mother...always a nice thing to do.

The gentleman was kind enough to be speaking so loud everyone around him could share in his conversation. Of note:

1. ASA "does not have enough employees" to operate their summer schedule.

2. Pilots are not answering the phone when ASA calls them to pick up extra routes. To do so would "send the message that they can get away with understaffing us."

3. A couple of weeks ago half of the ASA FAs did not get their direct deposit payroll. ASA had to cut manual checks and mail them to the employee's homes. Seems this pilot thinks this was done intentionally and that "they would never do that to the pilots be we have a strong union and we'd sue them immediately."

While I fully support this gentleman's right to express his frustrations with his employer, I'm struck by the stupidity of doing so with a plane full of your customers. Are people so stupid that they honestly think that others can't hear their conversations and just because they're in street clothes we can't figure out they work for the airline.

Yet another fine example of ASA and their employees demonstrating why they have earned the reputation they have.

ASA? Exspressjet? We have been over staffed..