Big Announcement this week in Bankruptcy

[i fly boxes]

The thing is, say what you want about seven, but there is just as good of a chance as that happeining as there is pinnacle shutting its doors. There is only a few select people at Delta and pinnacle that know.

 

[xjhawk]

So let me get this right.. Delta parts out Comair, and then turns around and buys 9E....:nuts: Doubt it... And if that was true. Would you want that outcome (Comair) 5 years down the road...

Time: During the last Mesaba bankruptcy

me: "With all that is going on, I think NWA might be making a play to buy us for pennys on the dollar for some future growth."

Senior Captain who knew it all: "There is no way NWA wants to own another regional. They just IPO'd Pinnacle and they want to stay out of the regional owning business. There is no chance of that happening."

Anything can happen. I just want to know two things about the new Delta contract. 1. in reference to the Mitsubishi regional jets-what is the domestic code share language and how strong is it to prevent trans states or Skywest from being a code share partner. 2. If there is a "B" scale provision in the contract for "mainline" wholly owned regionals that have Delta seniority numbers.

My gut tells me pinnacle will be down to 41-140 aircraft by 2015 and Delta pulling the strings one way or another with no chance at any american or United flying.

 

[WMUSIGPI]

Ok, I'll bite. I am betting on 111 airplanes in 2015

 

[Ops check good]

How many 900's do they have? Thats how many planes they will have by 2015.

 

[gojo]

How many 900's do they have? Thats how many planes they will have by 2015.

You guys are something else!!! Your like vultures circling over a dying animal, and are just waiting for the moment to swoop in and get some scraps. I agree that it is very possible that we go down to 41 900's especially if they don't get the concessions they want, but the real value to Delta would be to have Pinnacle locked in to lower rates for several years to come. That way it sets a new lower bar for other companies when in contract negotiations. I think the whip saw will continue

 

[Ops check good]

You guys are something else!!! Your like vultures circling over a dying animal, and are just waiting for the moment to swoop in and get some scraps.

Im not wishing any harm on any airlines. I have a good friend who works for pinnacle. It just seems the most logical outcome at this time. Key... at this time. The future of all carriers flying for DL has probably already been decided by management. Everybody just needs to hurry up and wait. Thats the regional game.

 

[xjhawk]

I am no vulture. I work here but I am realistic about my place of employment. Its a pretty easy thing to figure out. Delta has two major cards to play. If they are good enough as their role as puppet master of Pinnacles bankruptcy then they can take the remaining number of 50 seaters as required by the Delta contract out of the system just by manipulating the bankruptcy. If they need to actually use the carrot of the 70 new large regional jets for an exchange then they can do that as well. But Pinnacle getting those new planes is not a sure thing. Unless they see a cost savings or whatever reason they choose. So the formula to use on the amount of planes that Pinnacle will have in 2015 is this.

Total number of Delta system 50 seaters-minus-Comairs 50 seaters-minus-66 Skywest 50 seaters-minus-125=the total number of 50 seaters Delta needs to lose. This number is the potentially the number of 50 seaters that Pinnacle could lose. Some unknown factors is the other Delta 50 seat feed and if they will lose their contracts. But it would be easy for Delta to cut pinnacles. I agree with the 111 number, but it could go as high as 140. 41 is the second to worst scenario.

 

[i fly boxes]

I have said this from day one, there are only 2 reasons we gave up all of our flying with usair and continental. One is to shut down because of 3407. The other is because delta wants us to be their pilot supplier going forward. Either way chapter 11 gets them there

 

[Ops check good]

1113 was filed, was that the big announcement?

 

[i fly boxes]

The original poster as I stated before i dont think works for pinnacle and hasnt made a post since, just trying to stir the pot i guess.

 

[silver02ex]

1113 was filed, was that the big announcement?

I think we all saw this coming a long time ago. It doesn't surprise me.

 

[1.3XVso]

I want to know..where are my company guys at?

 

[FOrever85]

And Flyer will tell us all how brave and smart he was to leave in 3...2...1...

 

[Flyer1015]

Nah. Good luck to all the good guys trying to get out, hopefully the industry will slowly improve.

 

[Flyer1015]

i want to know..where are my company guys at?

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