Big Announcement this week in Bankruptcy

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You guys are something else!!! Your like vultures circling over a dying animal, and are just waiting for the moment to swoop in and get some scraps.

Im not wishing any harm on any airlines. I have a good friend who works for pinnacle. It just seems the most logical outcome at this time. Key... at this time. The future of all carriers flying for DL has probably already been decided by management. Everybody just needs to hurry up and wait. Thats the regional game.

 

[xjhawk]

I am no vulture. I work here but I am realistic about my place of employment. Its a pretty easy thing to figure out. Delta has two major cards to play. If they are good enough as their role as puppet master of Pinnacles bankruptcy then they can take the remaining number of 50 seaters as required by the Delta contract out of the system just by manipulating the bankruptcy. If they need to actually use the carrot of the 70 new large regional jets for an exchange then they can do that as well. But Pinnacle getting those new planes is not a sure thing. Unless they see a cost savings or whatever reason they choose. So the formula to use on the amount of planes that Pinnacle will have in 2015 is this.

Total number of Delta system 50 seaters-minus-Comairs 50 seaters-minus-66 Skywest 50 seaters-minus-125=the total number of 50 seaters Delta needs to lose. This number is the potentially the number of 50 seaters that Pinnacle could lose. Some unknown factors is the other Delta 50 seat feed and if they will lose their contracts. But it would be easy for Delta to cut pinnacles. I agree with the 111 number, but it could go as high as 140. 41 is the second to worst scenario.

 

[i fly boxes]

I have said this from day one, there are only 2 reasons we gave up all of our flying with usair and continental. One is to shut down because of 3407. The other is because delta wants us to be their pilot supplier going forward. Either way chapter 11 gets them there

 

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1113 was filed, was that the big announcement?

 

[i fly boxes]

The original poster as I stated before i dont think works for pinnacle and hasnt made a post since, just trying to stir the pot i guess.

 

[silver02ex]

1113 was filed, was that the big announcement?

I think we all saw this coming a long time ago. It doesn't surprise me.

 

[1.3XVso]

I want to know..where are my company guys at?

 

[FOrever85]

And Flyer will tell us all how brave and smart he was to leave in 3...2...1...

 

[Flyer1015]

Nah. Good luck to all the good guys trying to get out, hopefully the industry will slowly improve.

 

[Flyer1015]

i want to know..where are my company guys at?

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[SmitteyB]

Will pinnacle and gojet just go away? Please

Pardon me? What did Pinnacle do? Other than raise the bar?

 

[Clutch]

Pardon me? What did Pinnacle do? Other than raise the bar?

Followed by lowering it in a few months. Get a sales job.

 

[Jon Rivoli]

If they agree to the concessions the company is asking for, they will have lowered the bar lower than it has ever been, worse than Mesa back in the day, and they should go away if that is what is required for them to emerge from bankruptcy.

 

[gojo]

Followed by lowering it in a few months. Get a sales job.

You are a idiot. How dare you talk like it's the pilots fault we are in bankruptcy. There isn't a single pilot here that wished for this or caused it. Why would suggest we get a sales job. This whole mess was/is caused by Delta and the fact there is no solidarity in this industry. I'd like to know just what you'd do if you were in this situation, because talk is cheap

 

[Clutch]

I would have some dignity

 

[gojo]

If they agree to the concessions the company is asking for, they will have lowered the bar lower than it has ever been, worse than Mesa back in the day, and they should go away if that is what is required for them to emerge from bankruptcy.

I agree. No sense working for free

 

[gojo]

I would have some dignity

You're not showing much with your posts

 

[flyboyike]

I agree that it is very possible that we go down to 41 900's especially if they don't get the concessions they want, but the real value to Delta would be to have Pinnacle locked in to lower rates for several years to come. That way it sets a new lower bar for other companies when in contract negotiations. I think the whip saw will continue

That was supposed to be the real value of Comair to Delta as well. Especially since our union proposed all but a B scale (they called it B benefits, but that's just semantics).

 

[Terantious]

So what happened to this "BIG ANNOUNCEMENT" that was supposed to be by the end of the week?

 

[LanceAir]

Apparently "Clutch" isn't so...

Also, if PNCL ratifies a TA, I highly doubt it would lower the bar under Mesa's worst. Don't expect anything to happen till late November / December.