C'mon July

[Humphreybogart]

I can't wait till July. Then it will be time for CitationAir to vote OUT the mess they call the Teamsters. I hope CA management keeps stalling with the negotiating joke. After that, there will still be hope for us.

 

[RCA]

Is that next July?

 

[pilotyip]

I can't wait till July. Then it will be time for CitationAir to vote OUT the mess they call the Teamsters. I hope CA management keeps stalling with the negotiating joke. After that, there will still be hope for us.

What a union did not produce a Worker's Paradise and unparallelled job security?

 

[Humphreybogart]

Is that next July?

Yes next July. Stay posted.

 

[Humphreybogart]

What a union did not produce a Worker's Paradise and unparallelled job security?[/QUOTE

Haha. My sentiments exactly.

 

[dime line]

What a union did not produce a Worker's Paradise and unparallelled job security?

ohhhhh, ok I forgot Management produced all of that, Ok

 

[pilotyip]

ohhhhh, ok I forgot Management produced all of that, Ok

No wrong again, consumers of the product vote with their dollars to see if a company will produce a Worker's Paradise and unparallelled job security. Not union, not managment, but a combination of their activity that delvers a prodcut that people like to buy.

 

[bailout]

Whoever is left at that place when the shakedown is complete will need the union more than ever, unless you want to see major changes without any input. Paycuts, schedule changes, base changes, yes they are all coming soon..

 

[imacdog]

What a union did not produce a Worker's Paradise and unparallelled job security?[/QUOTE

Haha. My sentiments exactly.

So things will get better when the union is voted out?

 

[doh]

Yip, your oversimplification is a form of d-baggery that can't be cured. I've never used the ignore button before.

 

[pilotyip]

Yip, your oversimplification is a form of d-baggery that can't be cured. I've never used the ignore button before.

Thank you very much, you are welcome to use at your pleasure. It has been fun trading points of view over the years, you will sincerely be missed, best of luck

 

[imacdog]

YIP maybe you can answer, do you think the pilots' situation at CA will get better if the union is voted out?

 

[imacdog]

Yip, your oversimplification is a form of d-baggery that can't be cured. I've never used the ignore button before.

Don't go too hard on the geezer, his little segment of aviation has zero to do with happy employers and high levels of customer service, and everything to do with who will do the job the cheapest.

 

[pilotyip]

YIP maybe you can answer, do you think the pilots' situation at CA will get better if the union is voted out?

That up to the pilots to determine, if they think it will be better then maybe it will be. It is not up to you or I to impose upon them what they feel is best for their group. Do I have to name all the companies that no longer pay their employees anything because they went out of business?

Don't go too hard on the geezer, his little segment of aviation has zero to do with happy employers and high levels of customer service, and everything to do with who will do the job the cheapest.

Ha Ha :laugh:you really know how to hurt a guy don't you, beat up someone on the bottom. A little name calling it is FI.

BTW for a bottom feeder we are definitely not the cheapest employer and we have been a great place to start your career and move on to places like UAL, AAL, UPS, FedEx, SWA, etc

 

[imacdog]

Sorry YIPster but car parts don't care how well they are treated by the employees of the company transporting them.

Cargo forum is this way

 

[CA1900]

... places like UAL, AAL, UPS, FedEx, SWA, etc

Wow, look at all those unionized companies who aren't out of business!

 

[pilotyip]

Wow, look at all those unionized companies who aren't out of business!

I could have listed EAL, PamAm, Braniff I, II, ACA, Midway and Zantop , not to mention BK places like UAL, DAL, AAL

 

[dashtrasher]

ACA didn't go out of business because of a union, they went out of business because of a union shop was in Chapter 11 with a sympathetic judge.

 

[Hogprint]

I could have listed EAL, PamAm, Braniff I, II, ACA, Midway and Zantop , not to mention BK places like UAL, DAL, AAL

Midway died because of 9/11...

Not a Union.

 

[pilotyip]

Midway died because of 9/11...

Not a Union.

Midway I was gone by 1991, 9-11 had nothing to do with Midway 1 Not to mention SWA eating their lunch at MWD, they bought the gates of EAL at PHL for $400M in an attempt to establish another hub. Lots of friends worked there, I interviewed in the summer of 1989, by 1990 the handwriting was on the wall.