Ual hiring discussion

[i fly boxes]

I've heard everything from September to 2014. Hiring in on the cal side, would ewr be the base out of training? I am assuming the new 737 bases at den and Ord are senior so Ord would not be attainable until the sli is complete? Last question, I assume it would be a continental type interview with airline apps being the selection method?
Oh one more thing, can I get the 787 out of training?
J/k

 

[densoo]

from another board

"Starting August 28th we have scheduled 9 classes of furloughed sUA pilots to the tune of 12 per week. I have been working with a small team from both sCO and sUA to formulate the policies, procedures, and protocols that the new United will use for off the street hiring in the future. What remains unclear at this point is exactly when that may be. While all furloughed United pilots have received an offer per the TPA, there are still roughly 1,100 furloughed sUA pilots that can reenter the mix when we have classes available with simply 30 days notice. As we draw closer to a CBA (you pick your own time line) we may see pilots returning from bypass status.

There are a lot of layers to this puzzle, with very little of the off the street process firmed up right now. What I will tell you is that our team in Pilot Development and Hiring is committed to getting information about the process to the line pilots as soon as it is defined."

 

[i fly boxes]

Ok after reading that I'll go with 2014

 

[Shrek]

This year..........EWR and IAH 737. Airline Apps and a CAL style interview. Hope that helps.

 

[RT8VA]

I've heard everything from September to 2014. Hiring in on the cal side, would ewr be the base out of training? I am assuming the new 737 bases at den and Ord are senior so Ord would not be attainable until the sli is complete? Last question, I assume it would be a continental type interview with airline apps being the selection method?
Oh one more thing, can I get the 787 out of training?
J/k

Any thing is possible but the 787 out of training is pretty unlikely, most junior now is an 05 hire.

 

[Shrek]

The 787 comment was a joke RT8VA........

 

[rattler]

The 787 comment was a joke RT8VA........

Considering CAL was hiring directly into the 777 in '06, it seemed like a logical question.

 

[i fly boxes]

Thanks for the updates. I hope you guys can get this contract and sli figured out and be a dominant force going forward.

 

[Whine Lover]

"The 787 comment was a joke ..."


Uh...it's ALL a Joke....The entire Industry.


I'm sorry, didn't anyone tell you?



Love,

Whine

 

[bizicmo]

Considering CAL was hiring directly into the 777 in '06, it seemed like a logical question.

Wasn't DH paid at 50% at that time?

 

[Shrek]

Considering CAL was hiring directly into the 777 in '06, it seemed like a logical question.

In my best Johnny Carson voice "I did NOT know that!"

 

[Andy]

In my best Johnny Carson voice "I did NOT know that!"

That's because they were hiring into the 757/767, not the 777. There were a few 757/767 newhire slots available. No newhires got the 777.

You can file Rattler's post in the same file as the statement from some CAL line pilots that there are some LUAL 777s that aren't ETOPS certified. LOL!

 

[Andy]

Ok after reading that I'll go with 2014

My money's on late 2013. A lot of LUAL bypassers won't want to go to the LCAL side and will hold out until the LUAL side recalls. ... and furloughees have 10 years' recall rights so most that are coming back immediately already have. There will be a few who come back with the new contract but I doubt that it'll be large numbers.

 

[ACWild]

That's because they were hiring into the 757/767, not the 777. There were a few 757/767 newhire slots available. No newhires got the 777.

You can file Rattler's post in the same file as the statement from some CAL line pilots that there are some LUAL 777s that aren't ETOPS certified. LOL!

Actually Rattler is right. I remember getting bypassed on the 777 bid and seeing new hires going right into it. This happened in '06 to early '07.

 

[ToThePain]

That's because they were hiring into the 757/767, not the 777. There were a few 757/767 newhire slots available. No newhires got the 777.

You can file Rattler's post in the same file as the statement from some CAL line pilots that there are some LUAL 777s that aren't ETOPS certified. LOL!

They did hire atleast 2 classes, maybe 3 classes directly into the 777. I went into the 777 after 14 months at CAL. Of course after CAL reduced domestic capacity all the junior 737 Captains became FO's on the 777 and the junior 777 FO's went to the 737.

 

[Furloughed80]

It's true, newhires did go directly into the 777 at CAL. I believe 01/30/07 was one of the classes that had 777 slots. There was also much more than 'just a few' 757/767 slots.

 

[Patriot328]

It's true, newhires did go directly into the 777 at CAL. I believe 01/30/07 was one of the classes that had 777 slots. There was also much more than 'just a few' 757/767 slots.

Yep. A ton of classes were half 737 and half 756. The 777 was offered in some new hire classes. It wasn't that common, but it did happen.

 

[General Lee]

Yep. A ton of classes were half 737 and half 756. The 777 was offered in some new hire classes. It wasn't that common, but it did happen.

So, what you're saying is that there were a few 777 pilots that didn't have company sponsored health insurance for the first 6 months? YAY!! I bet Nimitz was one of them.


Bye Bye---General Lee

 

[Patriot328]

So, what you're saying is that there were a few 777 pilots that didn't have company sponsored health insurance for the first 6 months? YAY!! I bet Nimitz was one of them.


Bye Bye---General Lee

Yep, and making ~$30/hr too..

 

[densoo]

So, what you're saying is that there were a few 777 pilots that didn't have company sponsored health insurance for the first 6 months?

Then there's the CA who showed up to find all three of the IROs were new FOs still on probation! He slept like a baby.

 

[KSwift]

01/09/07 was the first class to have new hires go straight to the 777. It was my class. Junior guy got it.

 

[airksk]

Yes, there were 2 slots in my class as well. Also went junior.

 

[Plug]

Been at LCAL for over 6 years now and can't hold 777 FO in either EWR or IAH by about 75 numbers or so. I was less than 50 numbers away from 787 IAH FO on the last bid. With the 767 flying out of IAH going away to the LUAL side I suspect the senior LCAL 756 guys are gonna bail to the 787 or 777. If I can't hold it at 6+ years seniority then I very much doubt a new hire will get it.

 

[densoo]

A crew that included three probationary IROs on the 16-hour flight at night over the pole, while fully qualified, made the company realize that if there were an incident that rose to the level of public scrutiny that the news copy would read "two brand new recently certified barely qualified copilots at the controls while the captain and only experienced pilot was asleep in the back...."

This situation actually caused the company to look at QOL issues. Briefly. They started to dig into why more senior pilots were avoiding the premier aircraft of the fleet. They got a glimpse at how a bad contract made people bid away from being junior on a piece of equipment--and that CAL's contract was indeed very bad for QOL. As I said, it was a brief look. The furlough of the 147 solved their problem and they went back to business as usual.

 

[ATRCA]

That's because they were hiring into the 757/767, not the 777. There were a few 757/767 newhire slots available. No newhires got the 777.

You can file Rattler's post in the same file as the statement from some CAL line pilots that there are some LUAL 777s that aren't ETOPS certified. LOL!

Wrong

 

[Andy]

Sorry, my bad. I misremembered once again - not the first time, not the last.

 

[Flyer1015]

Then there's the CA who showed up to find all three of the IROs were new FOs still on probation! He slept like a baby.

Yup, then the three IROs found out that CA was a '84 scab forgiven by ALPA!

 

[densoo]

Yup, then the three IROs found out that CA was a '84 scab forgiven by ALPA!

Hoot!

 

[Hutchman]

That's because they were hiring into the 757/767, not the 777. There were a few 757/767 newhire slots available. No newhires got the 777.

Actually, you are wrong. Cal had new hire slots go to the 777 back in 06. They have routinely had 756 slots open in EWR, because it stinks to be jr out there. 8 people in my class got 756 EWR (thats not a few, thats 40% of the class). 777 slots were awarded to newhires.

 

[IAHERJ]

Actually, you are wrong. Cal had new hire slots go to the 777 back in 06. They have routinely had 756 slots open in EWR, because it stinks to be jr out there. 8 people in my class got 756 EWR (thats not a few, thats 40% of the class). 777 slots were awarded to newhires.

He already admitted he was wrong. What is funny is when I was hired. Most of us started out on the 737. Myself along with a few others went to the 756 about 8 months later when we could hold a line on it. One guy went to the 777 a year after that then upgraded to 737 captain shortly after that. He got all the types in 3 years. About a year after I was hired, the opposite occurred. New hires that went to the 777 got knocked back to the 756 then farther down to the 737. Either way, they too received the same types in 3 years. Great industry we work in!