Looks like SKW doesn't want to park 50 seaters

[Cpt Oveur]

Is it known who is purchasing the aircraft to fly the Delta 76 seat flying?

 

[79%N1]

Maybe for United, but for Delta you would have to follow the schedule outlined in the contract. The additional 76 seaters come along with the 717 delivery schedule. (not all at once)


Bye Bye--General Lee

Excuse me Mr. know it all, aren't 16 or so crj900's flown currently by Pinnacle possibly going somewhere else? Thought so.

 

[General Lee]

Excuse me Mr. know it all, aren't 16 or so crj900's flown currently by Pinnacle possibly going somewhere else? Thought so.

We were talking about ADDITIONAL 76 seaters via the DL pilot contract. Looks like your airline won't play ball, so I doubt you will see them and the associated pay raises that come with those larger planes.


Bye Bye---General Lee

 

[Freebrd]

unlike you Jenny, selling out once again for the almighty dollar, and then you come back to the regional board to stir shet up, what's your fascination w/ this segment of aviating anyway PUTZ?

 

[79%N1]

We were talking about ADDITIONAL 76 seaters via the DL pilot contract. Looks like your airline won't play ball, so I doubt you will see them and the associated pay raises that come with those larger planes.


Bye Bye---General Lee

No, we werent. It was mentioned that ASA is possibly gearing to add some flying due to the perceived over staff situation on the crj700. What does that have to do with additional 76 seaters? Is it not possible they may be adding some of those Pinnacle planes? I don't think it is the case, but who knows. At any rate, there is more going on than just adding additional 76 seaters in 3 years, but you knew that, right?

And on your second point, Mr. know it all, I think Skywest will end up just fine, but thanks for your concern.

 

[General Lee]

No, we werent. It was mentioned that ASA is possibly gearing to add some flying due to the perceived over staff situation on the crj700. What does that have to do with additional 76 seaters? Is it not possible they may be adding some of those Pinnacle planes? I don't think it is the case, but who knows. At any rate, there is more going on than just adding additional 76 seaters in 3 years, but you knew that, right?

And on your second point, Mr. know it all, I think Skywest will end up just fine, but thanks for your concern.

Your Brad Holt stated he would have to abide by the scope clauses, even with those MRJs. So, we'll see........ If you want to become the next Indy Air, then go for it.



Bye Bye---General Lee

 

[bigshooter107]

Your Brad Holt stated he would have to abide by the scope clauses, even with those MRJs. So, we'll see........ If you want to become the next Indy Air, then go for it.



Bye Bye---General Lee

The MRJs are replacement aircraft, in the press release it was stated these are not growth airframes. I'm sure delta and united would be happy with an aircraft that was more fuel efficient.. GTF...

 

[General Lee]

The MRJs are replacement aircraft, in the press release it was stated these are not growth airframes. I'm sure delta and united would be happy with an aircraft that was more fuel efficient.. GTF...

That's great news!


Bye Bye---General Lee

 

[XPOO]

The General is just pissed because SkyWest has been one step ahead of Delta and United for well over a decade and now it looks like they will continue to be for the next decade or two to come. While every other regional is grasping at straws to try and stay afloat, SkyWest is ordering more aircraft and doing more block hour flying than ever before. He keeps saying that 50-seaters are losing money, but SkyWest just keeps proving him wrong. He is "generally" pissed off that SkyWest continues to own the show.

 

[enuffalready]

The General is just pissed because SkyWest has been one step ahead of Delta and United for well over a decade and now it looks like they will continue to be for the next decade or two to come. While every other regional is grasping at straws to try and stay afloat, SkyWest is ordering more aircraft and doing more block hour flying than ever before. He keeps saying that 50-seaters are losing money, but SkyWest just keeps proving him wrong. He is "generally" pissed off that SkyWest continues to own the show.

for the life of me I don't understand why you guys even entertain GL comments. he will never ever ever agree with anything you say...just add him to ignore and move on... waaaaay too much space is wasted on this board going back and forth with him...

 

[wms]

With capacity shifting back to ml, these scope arguments are pointless. In a decade there will be little to no regional flying due to lack of staffing caused by ml taking all the rj pilots, no new pilots, and the eventual lowering of requirements at ml to meet their own staffing needs. With a need for 460k additional pilots in the next 20 years the regionals will be sucked dry and the majors will be desperate very soon.

The bell tolls for airline mgmts that have spent the last decade degrading our profession.

 

[Jon Rivoli]

With capacity shifting back to ml, these scope arguments are pointless. In a decade there will be little to no regional flying due to lack of staffing caused by ml taking all the rj pilots, no new pilots, and the eventual lowering of requirements at ml to meet their own staffing needs. With a need for 460k additional pilots in the next 20 years the regionals will be sucked dry and the majors will be desperate very soon.

The bell tolls for airline mgmts that have spent the last decade degrading our profession.

Well the first logical, obvious step to address this "pilot shortage" is to end the age discrimination that forces our most experienced pilots to retire prematurely.

Just watch, it's going to happen.

 

[xjhawk]

The general health of the average pilot will still force most to retire well before 70. So even if they pass an age 70 rule it should only sting a little. Here is the problem with this "pilot shortage". Even if the majors need to hire 10,000 in the next 10 years there is still 20,000 or so regional pilots out there. Not exactly a shortage but it will be easier to get a job. Thats not if the trend continues with HR's making deals to scoop up the best brand new college grads to take those empty right seats in an airbus. What will happen is the regionals will continue to shrink or disappear and only a few will be left. Not to mention with the scope level being set by Delta will mean that American and United will have similar contracts. Not to say it will be more or less restrictive but it will be similar. So unless there is some end around code share for domestic I do not see an answer for regionals to get pilots. The ATP and 1500 hours will be very restrictive and only the most desirable of regionals will be getting pilots

Thats why the Pinnacle bankruptcy will not be just a shot to the pilot group, but in the end it will kill the company. Who will want to even apply to a company that has a history of being poorly ran and crapped on by Delta (NWA)? WHo will want to get hired by a company who will have 10 year FO's and cannot hold on to pilots because of crappy work rules and pay? Who will want to work at a company that only has bases in DTW, MSP, NYC unless you live near those places? Oh by the way I think MEM is on its way out very soon.

 

[russtgol]

We were talking about ADDITIONAL 76 seaters via the DL pilot contract. Looks like your airline won't play ball, so I doubt you will see them and the associated pay raises that come with those larger planes.


Bye Bye---General Lee

Yes, but who really cares?

 

[russtgol]

That's great news!


Bye Bye---General Lee

Yes the news is really great!