Looks like SKW doesn't want to park 50 seaters

[xjhawk]

your scenario does not fit into the 2015 time frame for the Delta pilot contract. They have to be down to 125 50 seat aircraft by 2015 (end?)

 

[amcnd]

Wrong the minimum seats is 78 and the weight is what is key. It's heavier than deltas scope allows I believe. I'll eat my own words if I'm wrong. And that's the small version of it, Skywest's letter of intent was for both airplanes.

And the CRJ900 seats 88... I don't get what the point is..

 

[Jon Rivoli]

I think it's quite simple now that I think of it. Delta will trade in all of pinnacle and comairs 200s because delta owns them. Do you think delta signed this deal so Skywest could get out of leases on 200? I don't I think delta did it for themselves. I think all of comairs 700s and 900s are heading to gojet and I think pinnacle will exchange all 140 200s for the 70 new 900s coming. This will leave pinnacle a fleet of 111 to 127 900s depending on what happens to their 16 owned 900s. Skywest and Asa will hold on to their 200s for the remainder of their terms and when they get the delivery of the mitshubishi jet they will be done doing dci.

Very plausible. 2020 is ages away so no knows what might happen by then. The first MRJ delivery wouldn't be until 2017, even that is over the horizon.

Point to point with 50 seaters is a losing proposition, but if one were to milk the DCI contract as long as possible while transitioning from CRJ200's to MRJs? There might be something there, but SKYW won't do anything rash to upset Delta unless forced.

A stand alone regional operating point to point starting with $750 million cash and a fleet of 200 new fuel efficient 70-90 seat aircraft, back stopped with contracts with Delta, United, US Airways and Alaska and code sharing. That's plausible too.

 

[PBRstreetgang]

Yet Comair was wholly owned, and striking.

While DL may be good at playing chess, SKYW is playing Go.

An industry run by morons and staffed by retards, and us as pilots cannot find the clean end of the stick, where does that leave us.....

 

[russtgol]

An industry run by morons and staffed by retards, and us as pilots cannot find the clean end of the stick, where does that leave us.....

I think you fall in the retard catagory ummm I mean retard.

 

[General Lee]

Maybe Delta would hire loads of SKW pilots in consecutive classes, which could cost SKW big money in training and potentially cancel flights? You just never know. Take away 200 Captains over 3-4 months, and that could cripple anyone I suppose. Just a guess.


Bye Bye---General Lee

 

[JumpersAway]

Maybe Delta would hire loads of SKW pilots in consecutive classes, which could cost SKW big money in training and potentially cancel flights? You just never know. Take away 200 Captains over 3-4 months, and that could cripple anyone I suppose. Just a guess.


Bye Bye---General Lee

Yatzee! Hey, but CT is hiring 3 classes of first officers to cover the attrition to Delta. Does he not realize that about 1/2 of ExpressJet is busting hump to make it over to Delta?

 

[JustaNumber]

I think it's quite simple now that I think of it. Delta will trade in all of pinnacle and comairs 200s because delta owns them. Do you think delta signed this deal so Skywest could get out of leases on 200? I don't I think delta did it for themselves. I think all of comairs 700s and 900s are heading to gojet and I think pinnacle will exchange all 140 200s for the 70 new 900s coming. This will leave pinnacle a fleet of 111 to 127 900s depending on what happens to their 16 owned 900s. Skywest and Asa will hold on to their 200s for the remainder of their terms and when they get the delivery of the mitshubishi jet they will be done doing dci.

For some reason I think ASA/XJT will somehow be coming into some 700s/900s in the very near future. We're WAY overstaffed on the 700 side and understaffed on the 200 side, with no attempt by management to balance the staffing. There's a good possibility they know something we don't.

 

[Russ]

Lose 200 captains....I won't see vacation for a long while. I may however be feeling ill.

 

[General Lee]

For some reason I think ASA/XJT will somehow be coming into some 700s/900s in the very near future. We're WAY overstaffed on the 700 side and understaffed on the 200 side, with no attempt by management to balance the staffing. There's a good possibility they know something we don't.

Maybe for United, but for Delta you would have to follow the schedule outlined in the contract. The additional 76 seaters come along with the 717 delivery schedule. (not all at once)


Bye Bye--General Lee

 

[Cpt Oveur]

Is it known who is purchasing the aircraft to fly the Delta 76 seat flying?

 

[79%N1]

Maybe for United, but for Delta you would have to follow the schedule outlined in the contract. The additional 76 seaters come along with the 717 delivery schedule. (not all at once)


Bye Bye--General Lee

Excuse me Mr. know it all, aren't 16 or so crj900's flown currently by Pinnacle possibly going somewhere else? Thought so.

 

[General Lee]

Excuse me Mr. know it all, aren't 16 or so crj900's flown currently by Pinnacle possibly going somewhere else? Thought so.

We were talking about ADDITIONAL 76 seaters via the DL pilot contract. Looks like your airline won't play ball, so I doubt you will see them and the associated pay raises that come with those larger planes.


Bye Bye---General Lee

 

[Freebrd]

unlike you Jenny, selling out once again for the almighty dollar, and then you come back to the regional board to stir shet up, what's your fascination w/ this segment of aviating anyway PUTZ?

 

[79%N1]

We were talking about ADDITIONAL 76 seaters via the DL pilot contract. Looks like your airline won't play ball, so I doubt you will see them and the associated pay raises that come with those larger planes.


Bye Bye---General Lee

No, we werent. It was mentioned that ASA is possibly gearing to add some flying due to the perceived over staff situation on the crj700. What does that have to do with additional 76 seaters? Is it not possible they may be adding some of those Pinnacle planes? I don't think it is the case, but who knows. At any rate, there is more going on than just adding additional 76 seaters in 3 years, but you knew that, right?

And on your second point, Mr. know it all, I think Skywest will end up just fine, but thanks for your concern.

 

[General Lee]

No, we werent. It was mentioned that ASA is possibly gearing to add some flying due to the perceived over staff situation on the crj700. What does that have to do with additional 76 seaters? Is it not possible they may be adding some of those Pinnacle planes? I don't think it is the case, but who knows. At any rate, there is more going on than just adding additional 76 seaters in 3 years, but you knew that, right?

And on your second point, Mr. know it all, I think Skywest will end up just fine, but thanks for your concern.

Your Brad Holt stated he would have to abide by the scope clauses, even with those MRJs. So, we'll see........ If you want to become the next Indy Air, then go for it.



Bye Bye---General Lee

 

[bigshooter107]

Your Brad Holt stated he would have to abide by the scope clauses, even with those MRJs. So, we'll see........ If you want to become the next Indy Air, then go for it.



Bye Bye---General Lee

The MRJs are replacement aircraft, in the press release it was stated these are not growth airframes. I'm sure delta and united would be happy with an aircraft that was more fuel efficient.. GTF...

 

[General Lee]

The MRJs are replacement aircraft, in the press release it was stated these are not growth airframes. I'm sure delta and united would be happy with an aircraft that was more fuel efficient.. GTF...

That's great news!


Bye Bye---General Lee

 

[XPOO]

The General is just pissed because SkyWest has been one step ahead of Delta and United for well over a decade and now it looks like they will continue to be for the next decade or two to come. While every other regional is grasping at straws to try and stay afloat, SkyWest is ordering more aircraft and doing more block hour flying than ever before. He keeps saying that 50-seaters are losing money, but SkyWest just keeps proving him wrong. He is "generally" pissed off that SkyWest continues to own the show.

 

[enuffalready]

The General is just pissed because SkyWest has been one step ahead of Delta and United for well over a decade and now it looks like they will continue to be for the next decade or two to come. While every other regional is grasping at straws to try and stay afloat, SkyWest is ordering more aircraft and doing more block hour flying than ever before. He keeps saying that 50-seaters are losing money, but SkyWest just keeps proving him wrong. He is "generally" pissed off that SkyWest continues to own the show.

for the life of me I don't understand why you guys even entertain GL comments. he will never ever ever agree with anything you say...just add him to ignore and move on... waaaaay too much space is wasted on this board going back and forth with him...