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Delta staffing is anyone's guess. But here's mine.

Fewer pilots than anticipated took the early out. (about 25 <60 and about 90 >60) The early out was sold to us as an offset to staffing reductions caused by more efficient work rules. We were told to expect around 300 early outs, in reality, around 120 are taking it.

Delta is already about 200 fat on pilots (based on summer schedule). The economy, and how they plan on phasing in the M90s & 717s vs the cuts in DC9s will dictate when hiring begins.

This "early out" will eat up all our 2013 retirees, and lots of the 2014 numbers so there will be little to no movement in senior categories for the next few years. That means West bases are most likely years away for new hires, and decent lines in those bases even further.

I believe there is now a 24 month seat lock for new hires. All hiring will almost completely be into the 717 DTW/ATL, and M88/90 NYC categories. My opinion is that hiring won't happen until late 2013, with a weak economy and capacity pull downs as cause. I would like to be wrong about this though!!!

12 month seat lock for new hires now. I agree with your assessment of the early out-I feel like the union just really painted a rosy picture of that. I saw it coming and that's one of the big reasons I voted no on the TA. Now we are stuck with these work rules. I think once the real retirements start, a west coast base would come pretty quickly, though.
 
All flame needs someone to take the bait.
Well, at least you admit that you are nothing more than a flamebaiter. Thanks for being honest. It's just really pathetic, and kind of sad, that an active line pilot for a great company like Southwest Airlines has, as his major hobby, flamebaiting on an internet message board on a nearly daily basis. Literally....Unbelievable and sad.
 
Or outsourcing half of your domestic operation is sad. Maybe?

Sorry I haven't forgot where I came from Dtw.
 
I just talked to a guy who was a 18 year f/o on the bus in and recently got displaced out of slc... any truth to that???

No truth. Probably 18 year FNWA guy bumped from bigger bus (330) when that plane was pushed out of MSP.



Bye Bye---General Lee
 
ok cool, ya he said he was an old nwa guy commuting to reno from slc. said he could hold 767er captain out east but decided to stay in slc as an fo but ended up getting dispaced to msp. Then he said if I ever got on at D I would never hold slc...
 
They're especially good at being first
But spot on- I don't like any group outsourcing- but when the strongest, most unified of the big 3 does it just as AA goes into bk and concurrent with UniCal fighting against large a/c scope- its especially egregious.
Enjoy that payraise delta- it wasn't worth it.

Yep, sounds like wave is infatuated with Delta and is one righteous dude.

Tell ya what, you keep your house in order and we'll do what we can to keep ours in order.

You don't know what you are talking about. When you get the facts straight, come on back with a decent retort. Do you know anything about our agreement?
 
I know its the first agreement by a big 3 pilot group to allow -900's outside of "duress"- which means it sets a stronger precedent. I know that you can now add 70 more -900's without exchanging a -700 for one.
And I know that both AA and UniCal are fighting like hell to keep scope at 50-70 & you guys just cut their legs out.
And I also know that -900's will not replace the mission of most 50's- it'll be used to supplement mainline on mainline routes between big markets
 
Oh look, another DL thread, and waveflyer jumps on. Did you ever find the name of that DL pilot that nailed your mom, sister, or whoever it was that has you so infatuated?
Flattery wave. Maybe in your case, it's stalking!
 
So classy-
If it were just a delta pilot finally getting laid, I'd have been happy for them no matter who it was-
Scope issues get me a little more dedicated-
You know the issue is you guys selling out....again- for a biscuit.
 
So classy-
If it were just a delta pilot finally getting laid, I'd have been happy for them no matter who it was-
Scope issues get me a little more dedicated-
You know the issue is you guys selling out....again- for a biscuit.
So what your sister sold out for less. And got to promote the video! Try something else you flame baiting ****************************** bag! When you work for a real airline you can get back to us. Until then you're just a hypocritical asswipe bottom feeder!
I'm done with you and your fiance redflyer!
 

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