Delta pilots - Thanks for raising the bar

[JT12345]

You didn't get the 20% like I was hoping, but you came close. I am glad for you guys.

I suppose you are going to talk the whole leg about money now like the Southwest pilots I jump seat on do.

Add in lots of vertical movement in seniority too while you are at it.

Don't be ego maniacs and jinx it.

There is something about being number one (when I would have went over to SWA) in this industry that I don't like. I am kinda relived.

Congrats sincerely.

 

[GogglesPisano]

Thanks.

 

[waveflyer]

And thanks for making outsourcing -900 sized airplanes industry standard
Sincerely

 

[BILL LUMBERG]

Another positive post on FI wrecked by wave's stupidity.

 

[GogglesPisano]

Acute Lubbocktosis.

 

[waveflyer]

Well, at least you aren't ignoring me.
Look, I'm happy there were gains, but I will not "thank" you when the price was 70 more outsourced large RJs. Especially at this point in time when AA and unical are fighting to keep that sized airplane off the property.
What you did was inexcusable.
I'm happy your pay is back up, but I think mgmt knows that the downward pressure outsourcing provides will keep that pay in check-

 

[Dash Power]

I suppose you are going to talk the whole leg about money now like the Southwest pilots I jump seat on do.


Congrats sincerely.

Then don't jump seat on us if it is that bad.

Actually, PLEASE, don't jumpseat on us. I am quite certain there would be a few choice things to say about you also.

 

[ACL65PILOT]

If the bump up on large RJ's is a temporary one, the scope modifications will be seen as a win. Jury is still out on that.

 

[waveflyer]

If the bump up on large RJ's is a temporary one, the scope modifications will be seen as a win. Jury is still out on that.

When has scope EVER been temporary?
Know your history-
If dalpa ever intended on reigning in scope, they wouldn't keep voting to expand it. This vote made outsourcing more efficient by reducing the inefficient planes and replacing the seats with larger more efficient dc-9's - oops,- I mean "RJ's"

Reloading the whipsaw market just as there was economic pressure to reduce it

Yes. Thank you dalpa. Thank you so much

 

[ACL65PILOT]

When has scope EVER been temporary?
Know your history-
If dalpa ever intended on reigning in scope, they wouldn't keep voting to expand it. This vote made outsourcing more efficient by reducing the inefficient planes and replacing the seats with larger more efficient dc-9's - oops,- I mean "RJ's"

Reloading the whipsaw market just as there was economic pressure to reduce it

Yes. Thank you dalpa. Thank you so much

History is just that. Read it, understand it, and look at ways to change the trajectory. I did vote for this agreement, but I have to live with it. I will do everything in my power to try to get sunset clauses or term limits on the DCI CPA's with limits on scope and duration for renewals. In my perfect world the genie would be back in the bottle in 10-12 years. With having three years until the next full deal, that will be extended to 15 years. There are ways to do this, and way to make the company and the pilots of this industry "winners" It takes level heads that look longer than two to four years down the road.

Instead off freaking out over what "is," help formulate a path to where we as a profession and a industry need to go.

*On an aside, as a LUV pilot why are you worried about this? Do you think that SWA will go to SWAPA and demand sublease lift? If they do I would be gravely concerned about where your business plan is going.

 

[SLUF4]

I voted no!

 

[SWA717]

I had a DAL pilot on my jumpseat the other day who said he had voted no. He said that all the ATL pilots are a bunch of yes men.

 

[SplitBar]

Well, at least you aren't ignoring me.
Look, I'm happy there were gains, but I will not "thank" you when the price was 70 more outsourced large RJs. Especially at this point in time when AA and unical are fighting to keep that sized airplane off the property.
What you did was inexcusable.
I'm happy your pay is back up, but I think mgmt knows that the downward pressure outsourcing provides will keep that pay in check-

Then thank us for replacing 225 50 seaters with 88 717's. Idiot!! Go educate yourself on our section 1 because you are just making yourself look stupid by talking out your azz.

 

[General Lee]

When has scope EVER been temporary?
Know your history-
If dalpa ever intended on reigning in scope, they wouldn't keep voting to expand it. This vote made outsourcing more efficient by reducing the inefficient planes and replacing the seats with larger more efficient dc-9's - oops,- I mean "RJ's"

Reloading the whipsaw market just as there was economic pressure to reduce it

Yes. Thank you dalpa. Thank you so much

Looks like unlimited 50 seaters was temporary. (which was a huge win, with 300 plus being reduced to 125 total). There will be 148 fewer total RJs. It also appears your 717s were temporary, which is bad for you and good for DL pilots. Oh well.


Bye Bye---General Lee

 

[Hamfighter]

I made the decision the be happy, yes or no.
If yes, it's a small raise and, I believe, puts the company in a good position going forward. I hated to see more Lar-J's, but it does actually reduce the overall number of airframes and percentage.
If no (for which I voted), perhaps we could negotiate further and do better.
Again, I'm overall content with the short-term contract and small gains...I just had to vote my conscience.

 

[nimtz]

Looks like unlimited 50 seaters was temporary. (which was a huge win, with 300 plus being reduced to 125 total). There will be 148 fewer total RJs. It also appears your 717s were temporary, which is bad for you and good for DL pilots. Oh well.


Bye Bye---General Lee

Amazing that by sure willpower the DAL pilots will be able to force management to park the 50 seaters! Talk about speaking softly and carrying a big stick! Right on admirals...

 

[waveflyer]

Looks like unlimited 50 seaters was temporary. (which was a huge win, with 300 plus being reduced to 125 total). There will be 148 fewer total RJs. It also appears your 717s were temporary, which is bad for you and good for DL pilots. Oh well.


Bye Bye---General Lee

All RJs are the same eh Ford & Harrison?
(that's your new nickname btw- bc you did their bidding on this one)

I'm sure the 50's that are being parked had everything to do with DALPA....

You had a restriction of 255 70or76 seaters- now you have 325. Spin that all you want- but you used to have limits on 50 seaters.... Until you didn't.
Mgmt took the step back that they wanted to take (bc the 50's were going to be crazy expensive to keep), and took a BIG STEP FORWARD WITH THE SUPERSIZED "RJs".

When are you guys getting CRJ1000's F&H? I mean GL?

 

[redflyer65]

Raising the bar? You've got to be kidding me.

DALPA had a TON of leverage because these 50 seat RJ engines need to be changed. They folded for a small payraise that was actually funded by a reduction in profit sharing.

Larger RJs on property for absolutely nothing given to the pilot group. Plus, it barely passed.

 

[SLUF4]

I agree with redflyer on this one

 

[captain caveman]

Another positive post on FI wrecked by wave's stupidity.

You're a kind of sharp tool yourself.