Unted Continental Holdings 3rd Quarter Results

[145BOSS]

Posting a pretty good number.

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/United-Continental-Holdings-prnews-4070173913.html?x=0&.v=1

 

[145BOSS]

P.S. I sincerely apologize for not starting a thread involving the AirTran/Southwest merger. Moderators, feel free to remove.

 

[nimtz]

Jeff Sismek Daily Itinerary 10/27

1) Throw up a huge number due to inheriting two labor forces working for
BK wages.

2) Tell everyone on conference call that the merger is a unmitigated
success by emphasizing how many planes have been painted.

3) Tell stooges in Flights Ops to remind line pilots they will not take in
profit sharing this year.

4) Throw feet up on desk and light up a cohiba by 2 pm

5) Reflect that you'll be long gone with a fat pot of gold by the time all
the problems your management clowns junk the airline.


It's good to be Jeff

 

[densoo]

Jeff Sismek Daily Itinerary 10/27

3) Tell stooges in Flights Ops to remind line pilots they will not take in profit sharing this year.

UAL pilots get profit sharing. All FAs at both companies get profit sharing. All members of flight ops get profit sharing with one exception.

In fact, of all the employee groups and 80,000 co-workers at two companies merged into one, CAL pilots alone have selflessly agreed to help Jeff by foregoing any profit sharing until the JCBA is done in three+ years.

 

[Ex737Driver]

UAL pilots get profit sharing. All FAs at both companies get profit sharing. All members of flight ops get profit sharing with one exception.

In fact, of all the employee groups and 80,000 co-workers at two companies merged into one, CAL pilots alone have selflessly agreed to help Jeff by foregoing any profit sharing until the JCBA is done in three+ years.

And hopefully the list grows with those looking to FUND THEIR OWN FUTURE.

 

[densoo]

And hopefully the list grows with those looking to FUND THEIR OWN FUTURE.

Agreed. And when they stop "funding their futures" with VJM and CAs in right seat, they might get somewhere.

 

[Skippy]

bingo!

 

[mamba20]

As a CAL pilot who will not be getting any profit sharing thats just 773 million reason why I refuse to do anything that saves the company money. cost indexing, shutting down the APU at gate, talking captains out of single engine taxing and starting the APU the moment I arrive at the aircraft. I would encourage all CAL pilots to do the same. Where's my motivation save money?

"If I bust my ass and Inotech moves a few extra units, I dont see another dime. So where's the motivation?"

Also, thanks ALPA for being short sighted enough to NOT include profit sharing in the TPA. I just have love for this ******************** hole all around.

 

[RT8VA]

Already 242 million in the profit sharing pot after the first 3 quarters nice job cal alpa leaving us out of that one.

 

[whatitdoing?]

Man, I wonder what my profit sharing check is gonna be!!!????? Oh ya....nothing.

First of all, I'm livid about this. It's was explained to us at the last IAH meeting that the United pilots have it in their CBA. The Transition Agreement gave the CAL pilots 2010 profit sharing whereas we weren't gonna get anything. CALALPA tried and failed to get the company to pay for profit sharing for CAL pilots for 2011. So, in their eyes, at least we got 1 yr. CALALPA assumed that we'd have a contract by now with profit sharing. I'm furious about this. Assumed??? WTF, since when to we assume anything!!!! So, from what I hear, they're working on getting us this profit sharing through higher payouts in retro or signing bonuses. We'll see.

 

[Andy]

Also, thanks ALPA for being short sighted enough to NOT include profit sharing in the TPA. I just have love for this ******************** hole all around.

Section 8 of the TPA sunsetted at the end of 2010. It NEVER should have sunsetted.
There are several items in Section 13-A that will hurt the UAL pilots when they sunset at the end of this year.
Our JNC made the error of putting too many items that sunsetted in favor of management. The only fix at this point for Section 8 is a JCBA that includes retro profit sharing for the CAL pilots.

Stupid question here. Are the same people who negotiated the TPA working on the JCBA? I hope not; they need some adult supervision - and I'm not talking ALPA national.

 

[whatitdoing?]

I don't know the answer but I'm nervous. Damn 3 yr old can negotiate better than this,

 

[Andy]

I don't know the answer but I'm nervous. Damn 3 yr old can negotiate better than this,

Yes, this suddenly hit me like a 2x4. I've been sitting here reading the various sections of the TPA and I understand some of management's escape clauses. But those escape clauses are all related to denial of regulatory approval for the merger. These provisions sunsetting prior to a JCBA make no sense from the pilots' point of view and should never have been agreed to.
Now that these 'opportunities' have become available to management, I can't blame them for taking advantage of them.

But now my big concern is that we have the same people at the table who negotiated the TPA making the same mistakes on the JCBA. What is REALLY needed on the pilot's side of the table is to hire/contract a former management weenie who specialized in screwing over the rank and file when negotiating contracts. He'd be looking for language in the contract that can be twisted to exploit loopholes.

 

[mamba20]

And now our CALALPA "leaders" are asking us for more money. Just what in the hell have they been doing the past 17 months? I want to see a detailed accounting of money and time spent by these people.

 

[whatitdoing?]

Ya, 230,000 a month. I'm shocked by this. Dinner with lawyers, happy ending massages, and colon cleansing is ok, but 1200 bucks for food and beverages at our local meetings??