JB and AA to be announced on Wednesday.

[NAA Pilot]

During the conference call.

So I hear from a little bird in my pocket.

 

[AA767FB]

Heard it as well....

 

[Cpt Oveur]

Merger?

 

[pilotgolfer]

Merger?

They just contracted JetBlue for cabin cleaning services.

 

[luckytohaveajob]

Out in the islands the natives always say they will do something "Tomorrow." Tomorrow is code for "not going to happen whitie."

Tomorrow JBLU and AMR are going to merge. Island talk.

 

[Cpt Oveur]

Sounds more like one will acquire the other, only question is who. Maybe jetBlue will do all domestic and AA will end up all international.

 

[Flyby1206]

...yawn...

Yep, its been about 2 weeks since the last AA/JB merger thread. I'm sure this time it is for real!

 

[rjacobs]

I will ask the same questions that I asked when somebody on the XJT board started a rumor about AA and USAir.

What does B6 bring to AA?

New international routes-nope

East coast presence-nope because AA already has that with 4 bases/hubs on the east coast.

West Coast presence-AA already has a pretty big west coast presence as well.

Mid West presence-B6 brings nothing to the table on this and AA already has a huge mid-west presence.

Aircraft-AA has a huge airbus order so I why would they be wanting to merge with somebody who already has a bunch, why not merge before and forgo the order? 190's? Maybe for the 190's, but I dont know, pay on the 190 isnt exactly B-scale enough to make a huge difference I wouldnt think.

Pilots-fairly young pilot group at B6, but what does this really bring to AA? Retirement replacements? They(AA) could simply just hire off the street and get cheaper pilots than what B6 has since they would have to take them at longevity pay rates(a lot of the B6 pilots would max the AA pay scale, thus negating any cost savings). Plus there would be HUGE infighting of the pilot groups in this merger with way to many unknowns about how that may play out with a non-union work group merging with a union work group(which has a history of being ruthless).

New management-if Arpey wants out, why not just leave.


I dont know, maybe I am having random thoughts, but I dont see this as a good merger. I dont see any airline in the US that is left as being a good merger for AA in the fact that I dont think anybody brings anything to the table that AA doesnt already have(or is going to get through their huge aircraft order book).

Now a straight acquisition simply to eliminate competition, ala TWA/Reno, I could see happening, but with AA's supposedly precarious financial position and rumors of a BK filing I dont see how they could spread that rumor one week and then make a financial acquisition of another carrier the next, but I guess stranger things have happened.

 

[Otto77]

B9 is a vitamin.. B6 is jetBlue

 

[rjacobs]

B9 is a vitamin.. B6 is jetBlue

damn, editing to fix. I knew something didnt look right.

 

[Lake Alice]

This is NAA's post from 2007

I have heard a few JB friends and other accurate rumor types say that AMR is interested in JB's fleet. The Buses will make a nice start in replacing the Super 80 and the Embraer is just what the Doc ordered.

AMR will eliminate a LCC competitor and JB is Non-union making stapling a forgone conclucion. The APA has already said OK.

 

[Otto77]

damn, editing to fix. I knew something didnt look right.

All good! Just having some fun

 

[PERSON]

What would be the over/under on how many JB pilots would be on the street? Would the pilots even go with the equipment? Not intended to be flame...

 

[Lake Alice]

As per M/B which references A/M 50% of the pilot group may be stapled to the bottom of the list. The other 50% are theoretically added fairly. What is fair?

 

[SWA/FO]

B6's UNION will get them a fair deal..? Oh, forget about it.

 

[densoo]

This may be the latest in merger strategies.

UAL and CAL are merging and now CAL is hiring UAL furloughed pilots, 180 of them. Cheaper labor costs, even with the higher UAL payrates that these pilots keep. A dozen UAL 75s going away, CAL getting 19 new 737s next year.

AA merges with US Air and starts to shift flying over them. Another end run around RLA.

 

[CapnVegetto]

LOL if JB and AA is announced Wednesday I will post a video on here of me eating my hat.

This crap is getting old. There was a thread a month ago where someone was SURE JB was going to buy US Air West. Didn't happen.

JB/AA has been going on for months. AA doesn't have the financial resources to acquire JB, nor does JB have the resources to acquire AA. A merger? Maybe. The signs have been pointing towards it for a long time, and AA could damn sure use the workforce.

Hell I'd love to merge with AA. I'm junior at JB and even with a staple, I'd still be able to retire as a widebody captain with relative ease, just because of all the retirements upcoming at AA. In the 2020's they will be losing 700 a year. They won't be able to hire fast enough.

If it happened, I'd be dancing in the streets. Hell, I'd even eat a furlough for a couple of years and still be happy. I'll just get a job flying a Citation for a bit.

It'd be nice, but I've seen this crap before. I'll believe it when I see it.

 

[Lake Alice]

We merge and I'll share that hat with you for all the same reasons.

 

[$$$4nothin]

I will bring the tabasco and we can have a hat eating party at the corner of Metro and Lefforts.

 

[Lake Alice]

That's where I draw the line. If I'm at metro and lefferts I'm eating at Tu Casa.