Excuse Me...I Thought

[Whine Lover]

Excuse Me...I Thought That...

....This was the Airtran " Don't Tread On ME "...."Give me Everything Or Give Me Death!" ...New Hampshire "Live FREE or DIE!" ....Board.

Awful quiet lately...?

Sure does seem that all of you have piped down after having it handed to you by the "Powers That Be".

Now you will just STFU and take it. (?)

You should hang your MEC, sue ALPA, and get a Pair.

You have trumped the Fools at Frontier by a Huge Margin.

Enjoy the rewards these Morons have attained for you.

YKMKR

P.S. - I was previously neither "Pro" SWA or AAI. Reality dictates that certain parties here are just plain messed UP....

 

[redflyer65]

Sue ALPA? Sounds like a slam dunk once again.

RF

 

[dicko]

Sue ALPA? Sounds like a slam dunk once again.

RF

More like "slam drunk". Whine lover has been into the sauce again.

Cheers.

 

[tzskipper]

More like "slam drunk". Whine lover has been into the sauce again.

Cheers.

Even after a little imbibing, his pontificating and prognostications are significantly more eloquent than the majority of what is written here...

 

[ATA For Now!]

And, they're even better in person!!

 

[glasspilot1]

Sue ALPA? Sounds like a slam dunk once again.

RF

Just be ready to wait TEN years! These court cases drag on for years! It's still sweet when you when!

 

[flynvixen]

....This was the Airtran " Don't Tread On ME "...."Give me Everything Or Give Me Death!" ...New Hampshire "Live FREE or DIE!" ....Board.

Awful quiet lately...?

Sure does seem that all of you have piped down after having it handed to you by the "Powers That Be".

Now you will just STFU and take it. (?)

You should hang your MEC, sue ALPA, and get a Pair.

You have trumped the Fools at Frontier by a Huge Margin.

Enjoy the rewards these Morons have attained for you.

YKMKR

P.S. - I was previously neither "Pro" SWA or AAI. Reality dictates that certain parties here are just plain messed UP....

Could not have said it any better.......right on, right on , right on the mark.......ALPA should be run out of business outlawed and shut down, I hope the Clampett's vote no and find themselves on the street in a matter of days.......greedy pricks

plesae vote no and see what the next offer is

 

[On Your Six]

....This was the Airtran " Don't Tread On ME "...."Give me Everything Or Give Me Death!" ...New Hampshire "Live FREE or DIE!" ....Board.

Awful quiet lately...?

Sure does seem that all of you have piped down after having it handed to you by the "Powers That Be".

Now you will just STFU and take it. (?)

You should hang your MEC, sue ALPA, and get a Pair.

You have trumped the Fools at Frontier by a Huge Margin.


Enjoy the rewards these Morons have attained for you.

YKMKR

P.S. - I was previously neither "Pro" SWA or AAI. Reality dictates that certain
parties here are just plain messed UP....

How about you just let the process work, as signed by all parties? The first offer was soundly rejected because the majority of the MEC, which represents the line pilots, thought it was a slap in the face. The bottom 60% of their list into the bottom 20% of the combined list? That, along with junior SWA FOs upgrading before senior AT FOs is crazy. Anything they get now seniority wise
that is better than the initial offer is a huge win for them, and the money will eventually be there. If this next offer isn't substantially better than the first, I think we all know where it might go next!


Godspeed!


OYS

 

[On Your Six]

Could not have said it any better.......right on, right on , right on the mark.......ALPA should be run out of business outlawed and shut down, I hope the Clampett's vote no and find themselves on the street in a matter of days.......greedy pricks

plesae vote no and see what the next offer is

Looks like you guys are the ones who fear ALPA. They stood up to SWAPA and looks like will get a better deal in the process.


Godspeed!


OYS

 

[redflyer65]

They stood up to SWAPA and looks like will get a better deal in the process.




OYS

Really?? I think your about 180 degrees out of phase...as usual. Standby for SL 10, then you can tell me how much 'better' it is for that ALPA win.

RF

 

[madjack]

They stood up to SWAPA

SWAPA, the MEC rejected an agreement designed by SWA!! SWA mgmt has exercised the right to intervene in negotiations...if they have a bias towards protecting SWAPA pilot seniority, again that is their decision...

 

[Flyby1206]

What? New Hampshire? Woo!

 

[redflyer65]

They stood up to SWAPA

SWAPA, the MEC rejected an agreement designed by SWA!! SWA mgmt has exercised the right to intervene in negotiations...if they have a bias towards protecting SWAPA pilot seniority, again that is their decision...

I agree. I've been saying for MONTHS that AAI ALPA hasn't been just negotiating with SWAPA, but

SWAPA
SW management
SW shareholders (the employees own alot of stock)

and to some extent their own pilots now with this latest upheavel.

 

[tankerhead]

Could not have said it any better.......right on, right on , right on the mark.......ALPA should be run out of business outlawed and shut down, I hope the Clampett's vote no and find themselves on the street in a matter of days.......greedy pricks

plesae vote no and see what the next offer is

I'm guessing you're not among the SW folks who promise that us "Clampetts" won't be second-class citizens when (and if) we arrive on the SWA MSL.

Your internet persona is as bad as they come...a true one-tenth of a one-percenter. I'm sure you're much nicer in real life, right?

Edit: I actually agree with most of your rants regarding ALPA...they truly suck donkey balls. You, however, extend your wrath toward the AAI pilot group as individuals. That's just mean and lacking any grace, whatsoever.

 

[madjack]

"You, however, extend your wrath toward the AAI pilot group as individuals."

This is FI...gloves off slamming is an accepted way of communicating...occasionally some decent info comes out...

It is quite simple: AAI pilots want seniority and the pay and benefits of the SWA CBA...SWA pilots do not want to give up their seniority...these mutually exclusive goals naturally create a lack of trust (at the least) between the parties...

SWA mgmt has decided to intervene in negotiations (which is their right) and has presented two proposals to date. The first proposal was accepted by the SWA NC and BOD (and the AAI MC) but the AAI MEC did not forward it the membership. The second proposal was again presented by SWA mgmt and is rumored to have removed the financial incentives of the first agreement with some marginal changes to the actual AIP1 SL. During the latest negotiations SWA Mgmt shared strategic objectives with the MC and NC. The AAI MEC decided to let the MC negotiate another agreement based on the most recent SWA SL proposal...

There is a chance that both parties may do what is unprecedented: agree to an MSL that is negotiated vs arbitrated. The choice will ultimately lie with the AAI/SWA pilots (not pilots from DAL or AL).

That is really all there is to it...the process is moving along and I suppose we will get the real deal next week if another AIP is reached...