ASA MEC response to loss of aircraft

[777forever]

Basically we have to get this merger done ASAP to stand a chance competing for contracts . Good idea. But I still think were screwed.

 

[mxaviator]

With the same urgent voice they wanted PBS passed, that was supposed to make us more competitive for contracts too. I agree we're screwed, MGMT flushed our performance down the toilet two years in a row and now they wash their hands, blaming us, while we swirl in the the toilet waiting to go down.

 

[JoeMerchant]

Basically we have to get this merger done ASAP to stand a chance competing for contracts . Good idea. But I still think were screwed.

Of course if ALPA is looking for contract improvements, that will only make our cost structure higher....That won't help...

 

[probablecause]

with the same urgent voice they wanted pbs passed, that was supposed to make us more competitive for contracts too. I agree we're screwed, mgmt flushed our performance down the toilet two years in a row and now they wash their hands, blaming us, while we swirl in the the toilet waiting to go down.

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[cybourg10]

Joe, how much are you wanting to give back to the company? 10%? Vacation low? Maybe we should cap the pay scale at 8 years and build all schedules to 95 hrs. Will that make you feel better about our future bidding chances?

XJT won the UAL RFP in 2009 with some of the highest labor costs and the bid was/is profitable! How did we win that bid without PBS or sub-par 401k matching?

 

[Metro752]

burn it down!

 

[Nevets]

Of course if ALPA is looking for contract improvements, that will only make our cost structure higher....That won't help...

What contract improvements are you against? Are you willing to give anything up? Should XJT pilots take concessions in the new contract?

 

[aircombat]

What I like about the memo: How they compare GoJet to bargain trash bags and burned out light bulbs.

What I dislike about the memo: How the union once again sounds like a second management expressing their willingness to become more "competitive". If they want to ask for any decrease in pay or QOL then management better be prepared to take their own pay cuts, and not saving money by laying off some assistants.

 

[JoeMerchant]

Cybourg10,Nevets, and aircombat...

Let me turn this around. Based on the job we do now compared to 30 years ago and based on inflation, the job we do now should pay about 250K a year with a pension plan that pays about 150k a year starting at age 60...Shouldn't we push for that? That's what this job paid then....Why not push for that?

 

[shamrock]

Of course if ALPA is looking for contract improvements, that will only make our cost structure higher....That won't help...

So what will help? What is your solution?