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Yeah I saw your apology after I posted. My turn to apologize for my assumptions. I just do not want to see this thread deteriorate into another US Air (East/West) ALPA Sucks no USAPA sucks more, thread that almost is inevitable.
 
No, and I don't think ALPA is the only way to get a CBA .... Right ?
An ALPA CBA usually has holes in it large enough to walk through.

Lovely. Another way? That never occurred to me. [/sarcasm] Tried in-house, tried ALPA. Got at least another year before a vote. In the meantime, we're the largest, most completely naked pilot group the industry has ever seen this side of a bankruptcy and liquidation. I'm out of ideas, what's yours?
 
We were talking about M&A. I'm telling you that ALPA doesn't appear to help. Here's a list of recent wins that ALPA has been a part of;

1. USAIR and Am West. - Disaster

2. TWA and American. - Sued and Convicted of DFR

3. AirTran and SWA. - Steamrolled and on the verge of a staple

4. CAL and United - Jury is still out. Not looking rosy.

Yeah, but Alpo is the best.
 
Lovely. Another way? That never occurred to me. [/sarcasm] Tried in-house, tried ALPA. Got at least another year before a vote. In the meantime, we're the largest, most completely naked pilot group the industry has ever seen this side of a bankruptcy and liquidation. I'm out of ideas, what's yours?


I got nothing :D I've tried yours and it's not working out too well.

My original point was the lack of success of ALPA in M&A. That was all.
 

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