Future pilot shortage...

[flyboyike]

PT,
The military pilots are the best of the best, cream of the crop, unlike the latest generation of entitlement generation crop of knuckleheads flying the average RJ.

Because certainly Annapolis would never admit any entitlement-generation knuckleheads with well-connected parents, right? Neither would Boulder, of course.

 

[JAFI]

Nevermind.

 

[pilotyip]

PT,
The military pilots are the best of the best, cream of the crop, unlike the latest generation of entitlement generation crop of knuckleheads flying the average RJ. To equate a 350 hr Naval Aviator doing night traps to a 350 hr Bridge School grad who's parents "loaned" him/her the money to jump start their airline career isn't appropriate. Kind of like comparing Sen. John Glenn to CX880.
'nuff said!
PBR

civilian pilots could be the same if they used the same screening process

 

[johnpeace]

civilian pilots could be the same if they used the same screening process

Except that if we were all that good, we'd want/expect way more money.

We're good enough...and that's all our employers can afford.

 

[the palm]

PT,
The military pilots are the best of the best, cream of the crop, unlike the latest generation of entitlement generation crop of knuckleheads flying the average RJ. To equate a 350 hr Naval Aviator doing night traps to a 350 hr Bridge School grad who's parents "loaned" him/her the money to jump start their airline career isn't appropriate. Kind of like comparing Sen. John Glenn to CX880.
'nuff said!
PBR

Military means nothing. I've flown with good and bad. Same goes with the low time Riddle guys. Flown with some of them that were better than military. Flown with some that shouldn't be flying at all.

For the most part I've enjoyed flying with civilian pilots more. Just sayin...

 

[JAFI]

Military means nothing. I've flown with good and bad. Same goes with the low time Riddle guys. Flown with some of them that were better than military. Flown with some that shouldn't be flying at all.

For the most part I've enjoyed flying with civilian pilots more. Just sayin...

+1, But I do not have a preference civ/mil. I like the ones that don't pound on their chest telling me how good they are because of XYZ, I would rather they just do the job.

 

[pilotyip]

Military means nothing. I've flown with good and bad. Same goes with the low time Riddle guys. Flown with some of them that were better than military. Flown with some that shouldn't be flying at all.

For the most part I've enjoyed flying with civilian pilots more. Just sayin...

I have hired and trained over 400 pilots. That includes 47 military, including helo drivers, with one failure. The other 350, had 30+ failures, there is a difference. There is a uniformity found in a military trained pilot, it is present in other pilots also, but you have to hunt for that guy amongst the 30+ who can not hack it. We like to hire them because of a higher percentage successfully complete training, like the one failure of 47 new hires. In addition, no military pilot has needed additional IOE time or had any problem going through upgrade. The same can not be said for civilian time only. This may be why the military guys seem to get head of the line previledges at the majors.

 

[pipi]

PT,
The military pilots are the best of the best, cream of the crop, unlike the latest generation of entitlement generation crop of knuckleheads flying the average RJ. To equate a 350 hr Naval Aviator doing night traps to a 350 hr Bridge School grad who's parents "loaned" him/her the money to jump start their airline career isn't appropriate. Kind of like comparing Sen. John Glenn to CX880.
'nuff said!
PBR"

Hey, at least they borrowed the money, you got it for free from me and everyone else who pays taxes.
And I have to say, with exceptions here and there, I haven't been impressed with most military pilots I have flown with. Some of the least disciplined pilots I have flown with were Air Force or Army pilots.

 

[JAFI]

This may be why the military guys seem to get head of the line previledges at the majors.

Or the people doing the hiring are ex-military.

I interviewed at a Cargo Carrier. We all had to take a written test. The interview class was 14 retired Airforce C-130 guys and me. They were through the test in 5 minutes. The exam was like nothing I had ever seen before. Later when I told a co-worker of the exam he said he knew the questions. He produced the Airforce Instrument Flying Handbook (AFM 51-37). I still have that copy. As I read the handbook, I found the questions. Nothing like stacking the deck.


In my experence about the same number of military and non military pilots pass to line status. I have been told by several former military pilots "you can't fail me, I was a B52 IP, or F16 fighter pilot, or something of the like.

Not once did a pilot say "you cant fail me, I flew single pilot night freight or flight instructed for 10 years, or had 6 companies go bankrupt on me".

It is interesting how the pilots that have the ability do not have to qualify their background.

 

[kf4amu]

Hey, at least they borrowed the money, you got it for free from me and everyone else who pays taxes.
And I have to say, with exceptions here and there, I haven't been impressed with most military pilots I have flown with. Some of the least disciplined pilots I have flown with were Air Force or Army pilots.

And by free you mean they willingly offered to lay their lives on the line to protect yours...you ungrateful ass