Horizon

[johnpeace]

Just like the SkyWest pilot in the Van the other day that was talking about how happy he was getting 8 RJ from QX to fly for Delta and all of the growth that he project flying for AS. He made a lot of friends saying that to a captain that is taking a 15% paycut to go the the Q and the FO that will be adding years to his upgrade.

I'll remember to always be glum about growth at my airline advancing me through my career.

 

[Erlanger]

Just stating a fact. One group is taking jobs from another group and still that one group will be working with the first group. Are you thinking that it is going to be flowers and hugs?
And yes, if QX does have that happen then yes I expect the same result.
Your right, it is the industry. Just like the SkyWest pilot in the Van the other day that was talking about how happy he was getting 8 RJ from QX to fly for Delta and all of the growth that he project flying for AS. He made a lot of friends saying that to a captain that is taking a 15% paycut to go the the Q and the FO that will be adding years to his upgrade.

I say bullsh!t to your made up freaking story. That's one of the most common story lines on FI... Gee, once upon a time ..... in a van ride with a crew from...

 

[NWaviator]

Ok John - at the cost of others your airline will grown and do it for less. Great attitude. Let's bring the bar down even more.

It happened in the van, I was there. But I can understand you not believing me.

 

[Hamburger]

Skywest can run CRJ (anything) cheaper than most because of their........

Non-Union pay and work rules.

You can't be the lowest bidder forever. Mesa is coming for your contracts, and they've got a better price point. It's Horizon Planes and Horizon routes. Skywest is supplying nothing but pilots.

Sooner or later Jerry is going to decide YOU are overpaid.......On that day, you'll have nothing to say but: "Yessa Massa, Ima overpaid! Thank you for overpaying me all these years. Please cut MY pay Massa, yousea gotta buy another vacation house! Don't worry about MY family, massa!"

Do you want to be the equivalent of border-jumping, undercutting, job thief; stealing work from people who fought and earned a decent wage, or do you want to stand up and fight and earn a decent wage for yourself?

That's what it boils down to. Don't bother trying to tell yourself anything different. There are decent paying jobs and there are those who undercut decent paying jobs. Black and White.

 

[i fly boxes]

you guys should all dress up as eskimos and just stare at the skywest pilots as they walk to the plane for the first time.

 

[CX880]

Non-Union pay and work rules.

You can't be the lowest bidder forever. Mesa is coming for your contracts, and they've got a better price point. It's Horizon Planes and Horizon routes. Skywest is supplying nothing but pilots.

Sooner or later Jerry is going to decide YOU are overpaid.......On that day, you'll have nothing to say but: "Yessa Massa, Ima overpaid! Thank you for overpaying me all these years. Please cut MY pay Massa, yousea gotta buy another vacation house! Don't worry about MY family, massa!"

Do you want to be the equivalent of border-jumping, undercutting, job thief; stealing work from people who fought and earned a decent wage, or do you want to stand up and fight and earn a decent wage for yourself?
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From what I understand skywest bought those planes. Therefore they aren't Horizon planes anymore. I think that's how things work when you buy things, you become the new owner. It's called diversification, obviously Alaska doesn't want to be a one regional partner anymore. If you want stability then you should quit flying for the regionals.....

 

[XPOO]

From what I understand skywest bought those planes. Therefore they aren't Horizon planes anymore. I think that's how things work when you buy things, you become the new owner. It's called diversification, obviously Alaska doesn't want to be a one regional partner anymore. If you want stability then you should quit flying for the regionals.....

Bingo!

 

[ASABound]

John peace is an idiot and has no clue of what is happening in this industry. Is he probably under some member of mgmt's desk ....... If u know what I mean. More importantly he isn't representative of the feelings of the other 99% of asa/xjt pilots. Get a life John......

 

[Fubijaakr]

From what I understand skywest bought those planes. Therefore they aren't Horizon planes anymore......

Incorrect. The last 7 CRJs are being LEASED from AAG, under AAG operational control and flying AAG routes using outsourced Skywest non-Union pilots.

That's why AAG pilots in general and QX pilots in particular are upset.

 

[johnpeace]

John peace is an idiot and has no clue of what is happening in this industry. Is he probably under some member of mgmt's desk ....... If u know what I mean. More importantly he isn't representative of the feelings of the other 99% of asa/xjt pilots. Get a life John......

On the contrary...I just think it's stupid for pilots to be finger-pointing at each other as if WE have anything to do with it.

Bad form to gloat over someone else's loss, OK...fair enough. But the Skywest guy on the van didn't have anything to do with it.