ASA Premium Pay

[IFLYASA]

Don't be fooled into this. Most trips are 1 leg days so you still get paid the same. Any of the higher credit days were not labeled premium pay. Do they think we are just stupid? "Stupid is as stupid does." Calculate your pay before attempting to pick up something. Hold out and these trips will be double time pay. Still, if it's a one leg day, chance are it's still the same pay on that day as double time.

 

[mxaviator]

Yeah, I thought about picking up a 2 day later this month. After doing the math I figured that it would only change my paycheck by about three hours. I rather have the time off. It must work for some though, trips are getting picked up.

 

[asayankee]

Eff em....I hope people don't touch any of it. Make them eat that big crap sandwich they made themselves this month

 

[79%N1]

And that's coming next month, as nothing is going to change!

 

[LazyLightnin']

And that's coming next month, as nothing is going to change!

I doubt they'll go unchanged next month. Probably way more reserves.. "PBS is soooper! I got off reserve!" *in a lispy voice*

 

[damnflyboy]

I doubt they'll go unchanged next month. Probably way more reserves.. "PBS is soooper! I got off reserve!" *in a lispy voice*

And all the while, every line holder gets extended---turning everyone into a reserve pilot.

 

[Max Q]

All you folks running your mouth about the reserves who were excited to hold a line (after 3 years), bid reserve and fly a couple of THESE in a row. I double dog dare you.

 

[LazyLightnin']

I know reserve is brutal as hell, but getting off reserve is no reason to tout that PBS is all that and a bag of doritos. Apparently, it just makes the rest of the group miserable.

 

[Max Q]

Few people out there are PROUD of the PBS system as it is today, including those just off reserve. However, the improved QOL for new line-holders takes precedence over the garbage contract language for the time being and absolutely gives us every right in the world to enjoy not having 105+ credit months of day lines, 6 on 1 off, no-pay deadheads, waiting an hour after a trip before getting released, waiting for the crew bus for 45 minutes after sitting 4pm-12am ready reserve, min-rest/max-duty days, and on and on and on...

I hate that I'm working more for less pay but for the time being, it beats the sh(beep)t out of the 3.5 years of abuse on reserve. And anyway, you talk like the new line-holders are the only folks responsible for voting in favor of this crap.

 

[the palm]

And the trips still don't reflect the accurate credit values. Do the math before you get suckered into one of these.

 

[Medeco]

I dont get why three or four random trips are premium while all those others are not?

Whats the logic?

 

[IFLYASA]

I dont get why three or four random trips are premium while all those others are not?

Whats the logic?

They are definately short on pilots. So before they start getting desperate, they are offering time and a half on the lowest credit trips just to get our interest. Trips with just one leg pays the same (min day credit) regardless of time and a half. It's just a trick to get certain pilots to fall for it. If they did this on higher block trips, they would really be paying time and a half, and that costs too much. They are probably saving these higher block trips to be covered by reserves.

As the weekend gets near, they will be drafting to cover whatever they can. The reserves take the rest. Anything else left uncovered, they will get desperate and offer the premium pay once again with last minute emails.

In a nutshell, they are trying to keep the cosst down as much as possible. The problem is, the way they built pairings for March is biting them in the a$$. If the April pairings don't change, riots will follow.

 

[Max Q]

The problem is, the way they built pairings for March is biting them in the a$$.

Biting who in the a$$? I'm looking at completion factor and I'm not seeing anything out of the ordinary.

 

[Plainsman]

Was anyone fired at the Atech for all this? Rumors or fact?

 

[IFLYASA]

Biting who in the a$$? I'm looking at completion factor and I'm not seeing anything out of the ordinary.

It's calme before the storm dude. I have talked to several captains who have been extended. Even my current F/O got a call at home for a draft. If they can cover all open time, then great. The whole point is to keep hourly operating costs down. But at what point does their theory of low trip credits become null? With the extentions/premimum pay, possible cancellations, and pilots flying by the book, I don't see how their logic can hold. An angry pilot group can definately kill performance.

 

[CFI2766]

All you folks running your mouth about the reserves who were excited to hold a line (after 3 years), bid reserve and fly a couple of THESE in a row. I double dog dare you.

What are all of these fancy colors? I don't get it...

 

[Max Q]

What are all of these fancy colors? I don't get it...

I envy you.

 

[79%N1]

According to SH, pairings will not change for April. ASA is becoming the new Mesa. Delta has set the rate below what ASA can be profitable due to our high costs. Now, they must run it to the bare bone minimum and be cheap everywhere! They won't even be able to allow us to come up to Pinnacles new contract, because Pinnacle gets paid at a higher rate by Delta, so they can afford a little more. ASA cannot, and the joint contract will be a blood bath.

Look for cuts everywhere. Parts, support, urinal cakes, popcorn, seat cushions, soft pay, printer paper, crew busses, and of course.....asking for pay and work rule concessions! IT IS COMING!

 

[screamingpax]

According to SH, pairings will not change for April. ASA is becoming the new Mesa. Delta has set the rate below what ASA can be profitable due to our high costs. Now, they must run it to the bare bone minimum and be cheap everywhere! They won't even be able to allow us to come up to Pinnacles new contract, because Pinnacle gets paid at a higher rate by Delta, so they can afford a little more. ASA cannot, and the joint contract will be a blood bath.

Look for cuts everywhere. Parts, support, urinal cakes, popcorn, seat cushions, soft pay, printer paper, crew busses, and of course.....asking for pay and work rule concessions! IT IS COMING!

If so I won't give a dime until management cuts their own costs. Why should we get paid less if they have 2 management teams doing the work of one?

 

[ace6453]

Look for cuts everywhere. Parts, support, urinal cakes, popcorn, seat cushions, soft pay, printer paper, crew busses, and of course.....asking for pay and work rule concessions! IT IS COMING!

They can ask all they want. When they really decide to get serious about cutting costs they will merge us with skywest and get rid of a complete set of management. Until that happens they are just trying to screw us to improve their bonuses.