Need some help with a project I'm working on

[johnpeace]

I am working on a project as an entrepreneurial endeavor that has some data requirements.

One of the first collections of data I need is the list of overnight hotels from each US domestic carrier.

I have the Atlantic Southeast data already, naturally. It's available on my company's intranet.

The only way I can think to gather that data for other airlines is to simply ask crewmembers for those airlines if they can send me the list, copied from their company website. Of course, please don't if it's secret, security sensitive information...it's not at ASA and I can't imagine it would be anywhere else.

I can't share more about the project publicly yet, but would like to develop working relationships with crewmembers at other airlines to help move it forward.

If your inclined and able to help, please shoot me a PM.

Thanks.

 

[Max Q]

You're making an app.

You're making an app for the iPhone for pilots.

You're making an app that lists hotel information, photos, and reviews similar to trip advisor but marketed directly towards airline pilots.

Did I guess it?

 

[johnpeace]

Did I guess it?

No...not quite. It's more fun than that!

Can you send me your company's hotel list?

 

[PA44Jockey]

That is usually information that is kept private. Probably not a rule written in a book somewhere, but for the safety and security of flight crews, that information is not given out on a public forum. Not to mention that with most airlines, these hotels change very often. Sometimes daily.

 

[Max Q]

No...not quite. It's more fun than that!

Can you send me your company's hotel list?

You already have ASA.

 

[johnpeace]

That is usually information that is kept private. Probably not a rule written in a book somewhere, but for the safety and security of flight crews, that information is not given out on a public forum. Not to mention that with most airlines, these hotels change very often. Sometimes daily.

Yeah, I wouldn't want you to publish it on a public forum.

I'm interested in, from one crewmember to another, seeing YOUR airline's hotel list.

If you'd rather not share it, that's understandable.

Not sure where you work, but at ASA (and I'll assume Skywest as well given that we both use the same hotel acquisition company) they don't change THAT frequently.

 

[av8tor76]

i would have to agree with jockey, and reccomend not pursuing this security sensitive information...if any of your info got to the public and something happens, lawyers will come after you..

 

[PA44Jockey]

Yeah, I wouldn't want you to publish it on a public forum.

I'm interested in, from one crewmember to another, seeing YOUR airline's hotel list.

If you'd rather not share it, that's understandable.

Sending an anonymous person this information to an inbox is really no different than stapling it to a bulletin board. Perhaps if you reveled your true identity to the people you are requesting the information from, you might have better luck. For all the other members on this board know, you could be someone's stalker (probably not, but you never know.) You might also have better luck if you reveled a little more about WHY you want the information. If you still don't see why this is sensitive information, just place a call to each of the airline's Chief pilots and ask them for the information. Please post their reactions here.

 

[PA44Jockey]

i would have to agree with jockey, and reccomend not pursuing this security sensitive information...if any of your info got to the public and something happens, lawyers will come after you..

Your own airline would possibly fire you as well.

 

[johnpeace]

i would have to agree with jockey, and reccomend not pursuing this security sensitive information...if any of your info got to the public and something happens, lawyers will come after you..

I don't believe this is security sensitive information.

How does it even compromise anyone's security?

What if I told everyone here, in public, that ASA crews stay at the Crowne Plaza in Romulus on their short DTW layovers?

So what?

Anyway, if you don't want to share yours...don't.

Thanks!

 

[johnpeace]

OK...I can see this is going in a fairly predictable direction.

Thanks...I'll pursue this from a different direction.

 

[Max Q]

Give me a friggen break people. Type "ASA overnights" into Google and click the very first link.

 

[johnpeace]

Give me a friggen break people.

I saw it coming...

Not just pilots...FI.com pilots...the worst sort.

Overcomplicate everything and turn every single discussion into a contest to prove who knows more.

Whatever...I think I can work around this.

 

[PA44Jockey]

Give me a friggen break people. Type "ASA overnights" into Google and click the very first link.

Really dude?

If a person can use Google to access that link, there is a world of information available to them to see what is nearby their hotels. Even with reviews from thousands of people.

The concept is good and it exists to some extent at each airline. Though mostly on paper. Still a good idea to keep the Hotel info on your companies intranet.

I see where he is going with this, and it can be done without hotel specific information. Might as well post the route online that your daughter walks to and from school everyday.

 

[crj567]

i would have to agree with jockey, and reccomend not pursuing this security sensitive information...if any of your info got to the public and something happens, lawyers will come after you..

Never take legal advice from this guy. He has no idea.

 

[LazyLightnin']

aircrewovernight.com has a few.


A search in travelnet will get you Delta's hotels.

 

[Max Q]

PA44Jockey: You're not making your point very clear. It has been stated in this thread that an airline's list of overnights is "security sensitive information" and that, as you put it, is "not given out on a public forum". I just posted a method to easily acquire the entire list of overnights at ASA on a public forum using Google.

 

[johnpeace]

I see where he is going with this, and it can be done without hotel specific information. Might as well post the route online that your daughter walks to and from school everyday.

Huh?

Posting the hotel we stay at on our SYR overnight is the same as posting my daughters route to school?

This was a mistake on my part...I admit it.

I retract my request for help.

Thank you.

 

[LazyLightnin']

Wuss..

 

[johnpeace]

aircrewovernight.com has a few.


A search in travelnet will get you Delta's hotels.

I don't know how valid aircrewovernignt.com's data is...it looks sort of untended.

I didn't think to look at Travelnet for Delta...good idea, thanks.