Alaska Air announcement

[Erlanger]

Announcement on Jan 25th. on the future of Horizon and a new codeshare agreement with another regional to operate CRJ700s.

 

[SPDBRD747400]

I bet it's Skywest!

 

[NWaviator]

Thanks for the heads up. Most people already feel crappy about how the 25th will end for us. We (QX pilots) are quite sure that you (Skywest) will come and fly (our QX 700's) for lower pay. Good luck with the old RJ captains or shall I say future Q400 captains. We look forward to sharing a ramp with you.

Lets talk about options that will be announced. I will start:
1. SkyWest comes in an flies 8-12 RJs out of a PDX domicile. QX takes the name Alaska Air Express along will Skywest so pax can't tell the difference.

2. SkyWest Buys us and then have issues with intigrading seniority lists. BIG issues because we have some 10 years FO's that will want the upgrade. Let's not even talk about a staple.

3. AAG decides to liquidate QX and have SkyWest do everything for them. Then there are nearly 650 pilots on the street. I don't see that happening because mgmt got the contract that they wanted.

4. Very far fetched. SKyWEst will do the Jet flying in the west and QX will do the prop flying. IE cali,

5. In the end this could be disasterous for the Honorable QX pilot group.

6. OK, your turn.

 

[CX880]

Thanks for the heads up. Most people already feel crappy about how the 25th will end for us. We (QX pilots) are quite sure that you (Skywest) will come and fly (our QX 700's) for lower pay. Good luck with the old RJ captains or shall I say future Q400 captains. We look forward to sharing a ramp with you.
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What else is new?

 

[cbrown1]

I think the 25th will come and go without any announcement.

 

[nimtz]

Earnings announced on the 25th. If they are going to jerk around feeder operation that would be the day to announce it. Not to offend ERlanger but ALK might also comment on the operation of 116 737's as well.

 

[AntiJedi]

Alaska mgmt has been around Memphis lately as well, don't be so sure they won't go for BBQ'ers over the mormons

Bombardier flew the E-195 demonstrator into the old SGU, but that doesn't mean that SkyWest was interested in purchasing.

 

[10nCLR]

Bombardier flew the E-195 demonstrator into the old SGU, but that doesn't mean that SkyWest was interested in purchasing.

We getchya a great deal.
Sold!!!!!! :beer: (replace yellowish fizzy stuff with red flavored drink)

 

[i fly boxes]

I have a feeling that pinnacle will be involved in this in some way shape or form.

 

[bri5150]

What else is new?

I hate to spread slander, but aren't you a Gojet pilot? This statement makes it sound like you are disgusted by what could happen there. If you are not a Gojet pilot, then I apologize.

 

[CLARKGRSWOLD]

Heard Mesa is actually the front runner for the 700 flying for alaska

 

[WateryGrave]

Bombardier flew the E-195 demonstrator into the old SGU, but that doesn't mean that SkyWest was interested in purchasing.

Wow Bombardier is flying around trying to sell a competitors airplane... That is news! That new C series they're working on must suck.

 

[AntiJedi]

Wow Bombardier is flying around trying to sell a competitors airplane... That is news! That new C series they're working on must suck.

Embraer, I meant. Smartass.

 

[IBNAV8R]

I've heard the SKW/QX rumors. I'll believe it when I see it. But IMHO, if there were ever a 'healthy' merger, it would be between QX and SKW. Sure, some pilots would get the short end of the stick (someone ALWAYS does) but it would be good over all and better for EVERYONE long-term.

-Long-term turbo prop ops. (there will ALWAYS be a market for this)
-Continued jet flying for QX guys.
-Expanded base opportunities for both groups (particularly those wanting to return to their respective homes in DEN, and the PNW)
-With 3,500 pilots, any attrition will mean much faster upgrade opportunities for QX peeps. (SKW too but QX has been stagnant longer)
-Not a HUGE disparity of hire date/relative seniority.

 

[Smoke Toliet]

I've heard the SKW/QX rumors. I'll believe it when I see it. But IMHO, if there were ever a 'healthy' merger, it would be between QX and SKW. Sure, some pilots would get the short end of the stick (someone ALWAYS does) but it would be good over all and better for EVERYONE long-term.

-Long-term turbo prop ops. (there will ALWAYS be a market for this)
-Continued jet flying for QX guys.
-Expanded base opportunities for both groups (particularly those wanting to return to their respective homes in DEN, and the PNW)
-With 3,500 pilots, any attrition will mean much faster upgrade opportunities for QX peeps. (SKW too but QX has been stagnant longer)
-Not a HUGE disparity of hire date/relative seniority.

Don't get your hopes up. If they do buy you, you will be keep separete just like the other union carriers they own. Becareful what you wish for.

 

[altimaklr]

I have a feeling that pinnacle will be involved in this in some way shape or form.

Maybe that's why mgmt suddenly decided to negotiate and get a new 5-year TA? Pinnacle has experience flying Q400's unlike Skywest. I don't think the plan would ever be to retain QX in the long run.

 

[Carl_Spackler]

The pace of negotiations did seem to move very quickly for Pinnacle. An interesting theory to say the least.

 

[settogathrust]

Lots of rumors. Just hope the Horizon Pilots don't get screwed. One of the few groups that have stood up for the industry and gotten good wages.
Thank you Horizon Pilots.

 

[JoeMerchant]

Lots of rumors. Just hope the Horizon Pilots don't get screwed. One of the few groups that have stood up for the industry and gotten good wages.
Thank you Horizon Pilots.

So did CMR...anyone see a trend here?

 

[Erlanger]

I'll help you all with the speculations. Skywest is not buying Horizon. It's very simple. Horizon exists as it does now and will fly the Q400s and Skywest is added on as a codeshare partner to fly afew CRJ700s for Alaska. That's the announcement come the 25th.