SkyWest Pilots cancel IAH-DFW for scope viloation!

[proptojet]

SkyWest Pilots cancel DFW-IAH(1115) for scope viloation!

Anyone hearing this. This is supposedly going on right now(0730). The flight was carrying the CO designator. The Cpt. is refusing to take it until it's changed to a UA designator.

 

[turbinej]

looks like it left for DFW

 

[proptojet]

Sorry I posted wrong. It's DFW-IAH Flt#1115

 

[skywav8r]

Something like this happened during the Comair strike as well. Bunch of us made a big stink until we were sure that the flying was not struck work. Union or not, we at least tried to do the right thing. For its part, the company bent over backwards to appease the pilots. Hopefully more cancellations will follow.

 

[strega7]

I love the cancellation code, FLT OPS - PERSONNAL ERROR - CAPTAIN. Looks like it's repositioning empty right now DFW-IAH.

 

[BID]

I believe the flight is now being operated, a couple of hours late with only a handful of passengers.

What this captain did, took a lot of courage, but our union does not want to see anyone get in trouble. Especially at a non-union airline.

Even when these flights finally become fully compliant they will still violate the spirit of our contract. I feel bad for my SkyWest friends, so many are trying to dance around this flying.

anyway, fly safe you guys and document all violations !

BTW our union knows all about this, some on our Calforums have offered legal support if needed. I doubt that will be the case, but you never know!

fly safe you guys, and thanks again Skywes captain !

 

[Deerkiller]

The flight has been canceled. Way to go SkyWest pilots!!! If I find out who these guys are, drinks are on me!!!

 

[Baronman]

Good for this pilot, looks like he isn't delirious on the company kool-aid.

IMO this pilot isn't punished..

Scenario #1- Pilot is talked to but nothing punitive happens to him. Skywest management saves face among pilots maintaining their good image. In reality this is a calculated move on management's part to keep the lemming pilots happy and a union out. A union would cost them much more then a canceled flight.

Scenario #2- Pilot gets fired/suspended. Skywest pilots realize that maybe management isn't so friendly...Start to wonder how/why SkyW Inc can be out buying airlines, investing in airlines while their pilots fly increasingly large aircraft for roughly the same pay. Pilot mutiny brings a union on board and SKWY ends up having to negotiate a real contract that could cost them millions.....

 

[10nCLR]

I heard about 51 passengers were were pretty upset because they missed all of their connections. Now poor 6 yr old Jimmy won't get to see his Grandma in the hospital.

 

[LearLove]

yeah, because changing the flight number (4 numbers) makes it right. Change it to a 737 (or RJ flown by mainline pilots) then it would be right.

 

[BID]

yeah, because changing the flight number (4 numbers) makes it right.

if only it was that simple.

 

[Homer Jay]

These guys certainly did the right thing and I suspect they will have no problem securing interviews at a major when the hiring tide turns. Good on them and THANK YOU for standing with us and realizing that this is NOT legal flying.

 

[CX880]

Good for this pilot, looks like he isn't delirious on the company kool-aid.

IMO this pilot isn't punished..

Scenario # Pilot mutiny brings a union on board and SKWY ends up having to negotiate a real contract that could cost them millions.....

have you looked at they're finances? millions would still be pocket change. You guys are just drowned in that sweet stuff.

 

[Newpilot2b]

So COALPA do you have the Capt. Name on the "nice" list? or don't you keep those only the "naughty" list.

 

[turbinej]

It has been confirmed by our CAL ALPA reps. They did the right thing, and my understanding is that there is going to be no repercussions to these two pilots.

 

[Cpt Oveur]

That's one way to get an internal recommendation by a CAL pilot...

 

[rickair7777]

Nice Job.

I was spring-loaded to refuse the one I had to do, but everything appeared to be in compliance a couple days ago. I checked the CO website, the UA website and the airport signage...it only showed up as UAX.

Looks like CO is trying to backslide. Pay attention folks.

 

[Salukipilot4590]

The flight has been canceled. Way to go SkyWest pilots!!! If I find out who these guys are, drinks are on me!!!

Probably more will need to be on us since it's doubtable he still has a job.

 

[Shrek]

We need to find out who this crew was - CPT and FO and forward their names onto friends in the UAL hiring department when we hire off the street in a couple years.

This takes balls and we need more like him and his FO to crew our airplanes in the future.

 

[RSRVWINDSURFR]

Whoever these two pilots are: THANK YOU. Wow. Imagine that, a captain with a spine. The CAL pilots are watching this very closely and CALALPA in particular. These two may work for a non-union airline, but they have a union backing them big time now.

 

[COOPERVANE]

Whoever these two pilots are: THANK YOU. Wow. Imagine that, a captain with a spine. The CAL pilots are watching this very closely and CALALPA in particular. These two may work for a non-union airline, but they have a union backing them big time now.

Why weren't they backed up from the start?

All I saw on here was bashing of us "commuter trash" saying we are all salivating at the thought of flying mainline routes.

The Skywesters repeatedly stated they wanted no part of it, but the response was "yeah right ....you cant wait!"

Do you believe them now?

 

[Homer Jay]

Why weren't they backed up from the start?

All I saw on here was bashing of us "commuter trash" saying we are all salivating at the thought of flying mainline routes.

The Skywesters repeatedly stated they wanted no part of it, but the response was "yeah right ....you cant wait!"

Do you believe them now?

No. But I now believe two of them.

 

[BOX OFFICE]

We need to find out who this crew was - CPT and FO and forward their names onto friends in the UAL hiring department when we hire off the street in a couple years.

This takes balls and we need more like him and his FO to crew our airplanes in the future.

Yeah... because that's the kind of pilot UAL management wants, lmao!!

I think it's really funny how pilots still think they're running the show in hiring. It's all HR now, people! Even if there's pilots on the hiring board, they're no longer the decision makers! Quit acting more important than you really are!

But with that said, kudos to the pilots for having the courage to stand up, even though they may lose their jobs.

 

[BID]

Nice Job.

I was spring-loaded to refuse the one I had to do, but everything appeared to be in compliance a couple days ago. I checked the CO website, the UA website and the airport signage...it only showed up as UAX.

Looks like CO is trying to backslide. Pay attention folks.

thanks !

 

[WayBack]

Something like this happened during the Comair strike as well. Bunch of us made a big stink until we were sure that the flying was not struck work. Union or not, we at least tried to do the right thing. For its part, the company bent over backwards to appease the pilots. Hopefully more cancellations will follow.

Yep, but fellow ALPA carriers had no problem picking up the struck flying. Talk about brotherhood and unity!

Yeah... because that's the kind of pilot UAL management wants, lmao!!

I think it's really funny how pilots still think they're running the show in hiring. It's all HR now, people! Even if there's pilots on the hiring board, they're no longer the decision makers! Quit acting more important than you really are!

But with that said, kudos to the pilots for having the courage to stand up, even though they may lose their jobs.

Completely agree. Next week, no mainline pilot will even remember this even happened, let alone go out of their way to try and get some regional pilot a job at their mainline.

 

[Homer Jay]

Yeah... because that's the kind of pilot UAL management wants, lmao!!

I think it's really funny how pilots still think they're running the show in hiring. It's all HR now, people! Even if there's pilots on the hiring board, they're no longer the decision makers! Quit acting more important than you really are!

But with that said, kudos to the pilots for having the courage to stand up, even though they may lose their jobs.

I was hired by a panel of three pilots, two active and one retired, and my sim eval was run by a retired pilot. They told HR who to hire (pending background checks of, course). So yes, I do believe they can be brought to the front of the line.

 

[crj567]

That's one way to get an internal recommendation by a CAL pilot...

If this is true, these guys are already fired. Internal recs are pretty much useless to people who got fired.

 

[mrebuck]

Nice work guys.

 

[Chairman]

I am sure the CAL pilots who wanted someone else to fight there fight will send this guy money for the rest of his career if he looses his job. I doubt that will happen but if the CAL pilots want to fight this issue then they ALL should be flying SAFE the day the 70 seaters showed up with a CAL number on the flight not telling other pilots they should refuse the flying......

 

[bender]

The guidance from CALPA on this one was to fly the flight and then report to SAPA any CO code violations who would forward it to CALPA legal to address with management. Instead this guy took it one step further. Good luck to him/her.