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malibuVride

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I friend of mine at SWA said there is a thread on another forum asking SWA pilots to email the names of anyone they know at AAI that interviewed at SWA. He said its called the prune? and its only for SWA pilots. Apparently one guy, a former AAI pilot, sent a list with over 30 names on it.

I'm not sure what these guys expect to gain with this info but it seems low down...even for this crowd on FI.
 
malibuVride said:
I friend of mine at SWA said there is a thread on another forum asking SWA pilots to email the names of anyone they know at AAI that interviewed at SWA. He said its called the prune? and its only for SWA pilots. Apparently one guy, a former AAI pilot, sent a list with over 30 names on it.

I'm not sure what these guys expect to gain with this info but it seems low down...even for this crowd on FI.
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If it were true, which I highly doubt, then the SWA MC would be quite pissed at the sheer stupidity. This would only help our case in arbitration.
 
Kharma Police said:
If it were true, which I highly doubt, then the SWA MC would be quite pissed at the sheer stupidity. This would only help our case in arbitration.
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What? That you guys have several hundred that have either interviewed or applied?

But you're right. I highly doubt it's true.

Gup
 
GuppyWN said:
What? That you guys have several hundred that have either interviewed or applied?

But you're right. I highly doubt it's true.

Gup
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Who cares? The arbitrators won't. It's about what each carrier brings to the table, and if you don't think AT brings enough, then you will be shocked. Just let the lawyers fight it out.


Bye Bye--General Lee
 
Was on there today...have not seen it. Your buddy is probably screwing w you. Don't sweat it....btw thought on the other thread you said you did not interview?
 
You gotta kinda realize there's a$$holes on both sides of the fence! Everyone also needs realize some people are miserable and need to lash out and attack whatever windmill is available...whether it's a CEO/management or their new partner who'll be writing their paychecks!
Dolce
 
Yes, I can verify there is a thread about AT guys who interviewed at SWA. Its down the page a bit as it doesn't have too many replies. The poster specifically asks guys not to list individual's names on the site but to email them to a specific address instead. For this reason, I can't presume to know how many names have been sent but the thread does have quite a few views.
 
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You have put downs because you have nothing else to back your foolishness. Its typical for you KP. You might want to check again your facts again. You my friend are pathetic and its a shame you will be working at SWA one day. Sad little man...sad!
 
vixin said:
You have put downs because you have nothing else to back your foolishness. Its typical for you KP. You might want to check again your facts again. You my friend are pathetic and its a shame you will be working at SWA one day. Sad little man...sad!
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Sorry, I didn't understand your caveman writing style. You said something about seats being important but I don't understand how it ties into the thread topic of possible Southwest pilots trying to extrapolate some meaningless hiring data.
 
MILF Hunter said:
Yes, I can verify there is a thread about AT guys who interviewed at SWA. Its down the page a bit as it doesn't have too many replies. The poster specifically asks guys not to list individual's names on the site but to email them to a specific address instead. For this reason, I can't presume to know how many names have been sent but the thread does have quite a few views.
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Please oh please!, post some more info on the subject! The guys on our MC are going to love it!

Keep braiding the rope that's going to be used to hang yourself!
 
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I have never interviewed at SWA but some guys I know that did only were interviewed once. How many interviews does the average SWA newhire experience before getting the official offer? I know of several that had more than one and are now at SWA.
 
funnyman12 said:
I have never interviewed at SWA but some guys I know that did only were interviewed once. How many interviews does the average SWA newhire experience before getting the official offer? I know of several that had more than one and are now at SWA.
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That is true, there are many guys who interviewed and were hired on the second or third time around. The point, I think is that those people interviewed and were eventually hired do to their interview experience, and were not just handed a huge payraise and QOL.
 
So let me get this right... I'm an arbitrator and someone hands me a list with 30 names and says these 30 airtran guys interviewed at southwest. I got the list from a chat room on an aviation web board.

I'm not a lawyer but if I were and I was working for ALPA I would hand the arbitrator a list with 60 names on it... "These 60 guys from SWA interviewed with Airtran" I got the list from Ty Webb on flightinfo.

Well judging by the two lists I will staple SWA in AAI.

Get it.
 
I think the point isn't the names, of the people on the list.. The question that is being asked is this: How many pilots at SWA currently have, or have had apps in at AAI.. Answer.. probably 0.

How many AAI guys have had recent apps in at SWA? Who knows.. more than 0..
 
I always wanted to work for a company with poor employee relations and a terrible contract! Better yet, I finally get to pay dues to ALPA after 5700 SWA pilots vote to oust SWAPA. Maybe I could be the first SWA pilot to actually quit and put an app into AAI! Sarcasm off...
Dolce
 
Sorry...forgot to add the recently numbered SWA new-hires. It will be closer to 6000 SWA pilots who vote in ALPA after all is said and done!
 
Dolce said:
I always wanted to work for a company with poor employee relations and a terrible contract! Better yet, I finally get to pay dues to ALPA after 5700 SWA pilots vote to oust SWAPA. Maybe I could be the first SWA pilot to actually quit and put an app into AAI! Sarcasm off...
Dolce
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PHEW!!!!, you had me for a minute! Thanks for putting that sarcasm disclaimer at the end of your post, I almost thought you were really serious!
 
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StarrBuck said:
I think the point isn't the names, of the people on the list.. The question that is being asked is this: How many pilots at SWA currently have, or have had apps in at AAI.. Answer.. probably 0.

How many AAI guys have had recent apps in at SWA? Who knows.. more than 0..
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I think the point is, there is no point. You might as well gather statistics on race, gender or religion and try and hand that to the arbitrator too. I for one encourage you to do so, just let me know so I can bring the popcorn to watch his reaction.
 
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KP,

The arbitrators (IF it goes to arbitration) will take a look at everything and quite possibly the SWA lawyers may be able to demonstrate that the SWA career was valued by AAI employees before the acquisition, will this help in any arbitrated SLI who knows???

Be excited about working for a great company, if everyone walks away a little pissed off (vs segments that are VERY pissed off) SWA may remain a great place to work...
 
StarrBuck said:
I think the point isn't the names, of the people on the list.. The question that is being asked is this: How many pilots at SWA currently have, or have had apps in at AAI.. Answer.. probably 0.

How many AAI guys have had recent apps in at SWA? Who knows.. more than 0..
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The logic works for me. This could be a very strong argument to place in front of an arbitrator when arguing career expectation.

No dog in fight, just liked your logic.
 
You can't quantify value of things that are not tangible like "career expectations." You can however show "value" by demonstrating which airline is considered more valuable among industry peers. A huge list of guys willing to jumpship at AirTran, leave seniority behind, and start over at the bottom will go along way in proving which group of Airline Pilots had a better "career expectation."
 
Bill, it's a no-brainer. My opinion is that most of the aai pilots are reasonable, and that will be reflected (hopefully) by the aai mec reaching an agreement with snapa in the next 3 months. If I had a 100% pay raise on the table as an fo, or a $50/hr raise as a captain, I'd be kicking down the door to get it. I mean, c'mon, $5k/month minimum average raise?
 
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Bill, it's a no-brainer. My opinion is that most of the aai pilots are reasonable, and that will be reflected (hopefully) by the aai mec reaching an agreement with snapa in the next 3 months. If I had a 100% pay raise on the table as an fo, or a $50/hr raise as a captain, I'd be kicking down the door to get it. I mean, c'mon, $5k/month minimum average raise?
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Actually the raise is about $7000/ month. Total compensation.

But using your numbers, it's only a $60.000 average raise. ( $84,000 using my numbers)


And you still think you're getting screwed? Let those numbers sink in for a while.
 
S3sundowner said:
If I had a 100% pay raise on the table as an fo, or a $50/hr raise as a captain, I'd be kicking down the door to get it. I mean, c'mon, $5k/month minimum average raise?
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The problem is that hourly pay rates change from contract to contract, Seniority does not.

SWA may be at the top, pay-wise right now, but that can change . . . .if it does, there is not an adjustment that can "give back" seniority that was given up when SWA was at the top of the pay scales.
 
Ty Webb said:
The problem is that hourly pay rates change from contract to contract, Seniority does not.

SWA may be at the top, pay-wise right now, but that can change . . . .if it does, there is not an adjustment that can "give back" seniority that was given up when SWA was at the top of the pay scales.
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Wow, great logic. Might as well throw it ALL away then and never combine the lists - which is what will probably happen if you can't come to an agreement.
 

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