FFDO criticizes TSA gets visited at home by six LEOs

[ableone]

http://www.news10.net/news/article.aspx?storyid=113529&provider=top&catid=188

 

[Deli Guy]

Weigh in on that Karma Whatever Your Face.

 

[JFReservist]

Wow... How far have we come. How sad that we have to fear our own government... If only they were really worried about security, rather than control.

"...citizens, not subjects!"

 

[macdu]

Ok. If the cry babies want to punish him within the scope of the FFDO program that is one thing, but to take his concealed weapon permit and place that under review? How the hell can "they" do that? If I am missing something here please tell me. I see that move as completely out of bounds constitutionally and legally. Of course this is in California.

 

[Kharma Police]

Weigh in on that Karma Whatever Your Face.

Sure thing sport, very easy if you click on the link and not just read the tag line that The Drudge Report posted. Moron wannabe Julian Assange FFDO posted SSI lapses in security on YouTube and was surprised when the FAMs came knocking on his door to ask questions and to take his gun away. Local Sheriff decided to take away his concealed carry permit too.

 

[Kharma Police]

Ok. If the cry babies want to punish him within the scope of the FFDO program that is one thing, but to take his concealed weapon permit and place that under review? How the hell can "they" do that? If I am missing something here please tell me. I see that move as completely out of bounds constitutionally and legally. Of course this is in California.

What would happen to the Sheriff if this guy turned out to be a nut job like Timmy McVeigh and they didn't pull his permit when they had the opportunity to do so?

I guarantee if this guy had a middle eastern name and was caught filming airport security you would be jumping up and down to have his permit pulled.

 

[Deli Guy]

Sure thing sport, very easy if you click on the link and not just read the tag line that The Drudge Report posted. Moron wannabe Julian Assange FFDO posted SSI lapses in security on YouTube and was surprised when the FAMs came knocking on his door to ask questions and to take his gun away. Local Sheriff decided to take away his concealed carry permit too.

Wow, do you look like Janet Napalatono AS WELL as think like her? Julian Assange knowingly posts Top Secret documents on his web site. This pilot vocalizes everyday facts known by everyone and NOT in any way classified, and you and your ilk spin this as............what ? Double secret probation.....Dean Werner style? Nice try.

 

[Kharma Police]

Wow, do you look like Janet Napalatono AS WELL as think like her? Julian Assange knowingly posts Top Secret documents on his web site. This pilot vocalizes everyday facts known by everyone and NOT in any way classified, and you and your ilk spin this as............what ? Double secret probation.....Dean Werner style? Nice try.

Assuming you are an airline pilot and not on winter break from high school or your community college you will understand that we pass through security on a weekly basis and thus might see potential lapses. But guess what genius, not everyone in the flying public knows about security issues at the airport but thanks to al-qaeda useful idiots like that guy they sure might know them now.

 

[ableone]

Assuming you are an airline pilot and not on winter break from high school or your community college you will understand that we pass through security on a weekly basis and thus might see potential lapses. But guess what genius, not everyone in the flying public knows about security issues at the airport but thanks to al-qaeda useful idiots like that guy they sure might know them now.

The terrorists already know about these weak points genius.

 

[Turtle21]

The terrorists already know about these weak points genius.

Agreed. The terrorists groups are far more knowledgable about the value and (non)impact or our security measures than the bimbo blondes who "feel safer" when 56 year old grandmas are arrested for refusing to be grouped.

But the real winners are the ones who fuel the fighting among everyone, and use the emotions to manipulate in order to capitalize on the untold business opportunities that accompany war, political discontent, or chaos.

 

[CA1900]

What would happen to the Sheriff if this guy turned out to be a nut job like Timmy McVeigh and they didn't pull his permit when they had the opportunity to do so?

You're not seriously still under the delusion that the lack of a permit would stop an actual criminal, are you?

 

[Cheeta]

Ask all the LEO's to pack their weapons and check their bags ....time to send a message.

 

[flythere]

How ya like that hope and change now!!!

 

[Nado]

Their was a letter in the USA Today last month saying the same thing. This problem has been in the public long before that. I was beginning to think it would take a terrorist act to get peoples attention.
I for one am tired of asking nicely why pilots are screened and no one else is, the boat needed to be rocked.

 

[maru657]

Their was a letter in the USA Today last month saying the same thing. This problem has been in the public long before that. I was beginning to think it would take a terrorist act to get peoples attention.
I for one am tired of asking nicely why pilots are screened and no one else is, the boat needed to be rocked.

I absolutely agree. As a matter of fact why are flight crews going through security anyway. Yes an ID might be fake but any ID can be faked and it boils down to the premise that if your that scared of life and it's unknowns maybe you should just hide under your bed and never risk the big bad world.

 

[Kharma Police]

You're not seriously still under the delusion that the lack of a permit would stop an actual criminal, are you?

No, if a crime was committed and the community, Monday Morning Quarterbacks and especially lawyers found out that the Sheriff didn't pull his conceal permit when he had suspicions then he would be front page news and the crime that was committed would be on page four.

 

[Kharma Police]

The terrorists already know about these weak points genius.

Really?, then I guess we shouldn't care about Wikileaks publishing lists of potential terrorist targets here and abroad since they already know.

 

[Deli Guy]

Assuming you are an airline pilot and not on winter break from high school or your community college you will understand that we pass through security on a weekly basis and thus might see potential lapses. But guess what genius, not everyone in the flying public knows about security issues at the airport but thanks to al-qaeda useful idiots like that guy they sure might know them now.

Yeah Dude,
You kill me. We (pilots)are sick of the "Carnies" (that is the high school drop outs and people with names that sound like the 9-11 terrorists) swiping a card and gaining access to our airplanes when we can not. We are concerned that the Carnies have security issues that our inept TSA is allowing. We are concerned that they are wasting time with us and a pilot (who has done more for his country than sit at a computer like you) has thrown it out there in a completely legal manner. Lets dive into that ""completely legal manner". Have you backed down from your initial crazy statement that this is in any way like Julian Assange? Was that just a leftist "mud thrown on the wall to see what sticks? Facts: 1. The pilot recorded in a public place. 2. The pilot verified the fact that Carnies are allowed no security on a day to day basis. That same fact has been discussed on numerous tv, radio, and blog sites. I guess your look alike J. Napalitano needs to roll in on all of those places in fairness. The completely legal manner does not preclude Janet Napalatano from using the forces at her disposal to intimidate individuals using your and my.......well probably MY tax money because you are probably a non pilot welfare recipient Obama supporter, Anyway, she can threaten anyone she wants with a mountain of legal debt even if what he is doing is legal. The pilot is showing how inept the TSA to put the spotlight on areas that need to be fixed because.....they have not been fixed for 9+ years!!! Al Qaeda does not know about these things? Hah! Yes they do you idiot, they have been probing for years. The useful idiot here is you and your moronic bemoaning of your.....pin up girl Janet. THAT is what helps Al Qaeda. The useful idiot is Janet herself for playing by their politically correct ground rules, and you slurp it right up while fawning all over your leftist leaders. LOL, grow a spine son.

 

[Deli Guy]

Really?, then I guess we shouldn't care about Wikileaks publishing lists of potential terrorist targets here and abroad since they already know.

Incredible. I believe you really know there is a huge difference between these two situations, but you have learned the art of claiming ridicolus things with a straight face so when your opponent starts a debate with you, it legitimizes the ridicolus! You hold the argument higher than the truth which means you no longer care about truth, you care about your ideology at all costs--even over your nation and (if you are a pilot) your profession. Why don't you run along and organize a nice rally somewhere for Global Warming or Twitter your Facebook or something.

 

[Kharma Police]

Yeah Dude,
You kill me. We (pilots)are sick of the "Carnies" (that is the high school drop outs and people with names that sound like the 9-11 terrorists) swiping a card and gaining access to our airplanes when we can not. We are concerned that the Carnies have security issues that our inept TSA is allowing. We are concerned that they are wasting time with us and a pilot (who has done more for his country than sit at a computer like you) has thrown it out there in a completely legal manner. Lets dive into that ""completely legal manner". Have you backed down from your initial crazy statement that this is in any way like Julian Assange? Was that just a leftist "mud thrown on the wall to see what sticks? Facts: 1. The pilot recorded in a public place. 2. The pilot verified the fact that Carnies are allowed no security on a day to day basis. That same fact has been discussed on numerous tv, radio, and blog sites. I guess your look alike J. Napalitano needs to roll in on all of those places in fairness. The completely legal manner does not preclude Janet Napalatano from using the forces at her disposal to intimidate individuals using your and my.......well probably MY tax money because you are probably a non pilot welfare recipient Obama supporter, Anyway, she can threaten anyone she wants with a mountain of legal debt even if what he is doing is legal. The pilot is showing how inept the TSA to put the spotlight on areas that need to be fixed because.....they have not been fixed for 9+ years!!! Al Qaeda does not know about these things? Hah! Yes they do you idiot, they have been probing for years. The useful idiot here is you and your moronic bemoaning of your.....pin up girl Janet. THAT is what helps Al Qaeda. The useful idiot is Janet herself for playing by their politically correct ground rules, and you slurp it right up while fawning all over your leftist leaders. LOL, grow a spine son.

Way to go off the reservation guy, this isn't a Republican or Democrat issue. This is about some tool pilot thinking that the best way to change things is through YouTube. He did something stupid and wrong and got busted, end of story. If Useful Idiots like you can't see the problem with divulging lapses in security then maybe you should go back to your community college and get a clue.

 

[Kharma Police]

Incredible. I believe you really know there is a huge difference between these two situations, but you have learned the art of claiming ridicolus things with a straight face so when your opponent starts a debate with you, it legitimizes the ridicolus! You hold the argument higher than the truth which means you no longer care about truth, you care about your ideology at all costs--even over your nation and (if you are a pilot) your profession. Why don't you run along and organize a nice rally somewhere for Global Warming or Twitter your Facebook or something.

Dude, do they not teach spelling or reading comprehension at your community college? What part of, "AirTran Captain" in my profile do you not understand? I mean, you are being, "ridicolus"(sic)!!

 

[BoilerUP]

A CCDW permit is not a right, its a privilege.

That said, it doesn't take a rocket scientist to conclude the sheriff pulling his CCDW permit was because of TSA/FAM pressure and not any real "risk" to himself or society; God knows if they thought the Youtuber posed an actual security risk they'd have at least temporarily detained him, if not had the FAA get involved with an emergency revocation of his certificates since, you know, he's a pilot AND CAN CRASH THE FARKING AIRPLANE IF HE WANTED TO.

No no, 6 folks to revoke his duty weapon after this is just punishment & intimidation by the Blueshirts for quite publicly pointing out the stupidity & holes in their "security" theater. Its the FAM Service's discretion to remove him as an FFDO...but all this is just nonsense and YET ANOTHER example of the unchecked, overreaching powers of the Department of Homeland Security under both the Bush & Obama administrations...an ever-growing bureaucracy with no purpose in life other than to increase their annual budget every year.

What's even more comical in this whole charade is how, historically and especially in the last three decades, just how often law enforcement has been compromised by terrorists around the world. Despite this, how often do you see TSA staff or LEOs ever go through a checkpoint?

 

[waveflyer]

How ya like that hope and change now!!!

Perfect- now it's a dem/rep left v right thing? I don't know if you remember who created the TSA and all the ridiculous stories before the 'end of an error'- but most of do. Beaurocratic bullsh:t is bipartisan.

The pilot makes a very good point- too many fiefdoms- airport employees can swipe cards and bypass security quickly bc they've gone through the individualized process at their airport to get that access- no airport is willing to give up their individualized control- and noone has access to all airports like we are asking- even then- we wouldn't be able to bypass in other countries-

I understand this guy- bc we've been patient enough- their needs to be some sort of bypass for us as "trusted employees"-ie common sense(!)- we don't need a weapon, we're flying the plane- but you can't really have pilots "testing" the system w/o repercussion-

Seems like he's willing to take one for the team- whoever knows who he is, I hope he's a good dude and they've set up a lawyer fund

 

[Rez O. Lewshun]

There is no police state.
There is no police state.
There is no police state.
There is no police state.
There is no police state.
There is no police state.
There is no police state.
There is no police state.
There is no police state.
There is no police state.
There is no police state.
There is no police state.
There is no police state.
There is no police state.
There is no police state.

 

[Turtle21]

A CCDW permit is not a right, its a privilege.

That said, it doesn't take a rocket scientist to conclude the sheriff pulling his CCDW permit was because of TSA/FAM pressure and not any real "risk" to himself or society; God knows if they thought the Youtuber posed an actual security risk they'd have at least temporarily detained him, if not had the FAA get involved with an emergency revocation of his certificates since, you know, he's a pilot AND CAN CRASH THE FARKING AIRPLANE IF HE WANTED TO.

No no, 6 folks to revoke his duty weapon after this is just punishment & intimidation by the Blueshirts for quite publicly pointing out the stupidity & holes in their "security" theater. Its the FAM Service's discretion to remove him as an FFDO...but all this is just nonsense and YET ANOTHER example of the unchecked, overreaching powers of the Department of Homeland Security under both the Bush & Obama administrations...an ever-growing bureaucracy with no purpose in life other than to increase their annual budget every year.

What's even more comical in this whole charade is how, historically and especially in the last three decades, just how often law enforcement has been compromised by terrorists around the world. Despite this, how often do you see TSA staff or LEOs ever go through a checkpoint?

In Germany they wore brown shirts. Now here in the states they are too cheap to buy the brown fabric for their shirts because its more expensive.

 

[Kharma Police]

In Germany they wore brown shirts. Now here in the states they are too cheap to buy the brown fabric for their shirts because its more expensive.

Yes, it is most definitely a police state when you get busted after you sign a statement to get your SIDA badge stating that you will not divulge details of SIDA security and then you post those things on YouTube.

 

[Rick James]

A CCDW permit is not a right, its a privilege.

Really, maybe in Kalifornia? Most of the rest of the nation doesn't seem to think so. Think "shall issue" as opposed to "may issue".

 

[Midnight Flyer]

i just want to see the videos he posted..

 

[Deli Guy]

Way to go off the reservation guy, this isn't a Republican or Democrat issue. This is about some tool pilot thinking that the best way to change things is through YouTube. He did something stupid and wrong and got busted, end of story. If Useful Idiots like you can't see the problem with divulging lapses in security then maybe you should go back to your community college and get a clue.

No, you are defending the insanity of this administration and it comes firmly under Republican or Democrat. He did not do anything stupid. The feds are overreaching once again and you are defending them. That is where the political divide comes in. Yeah, I will go back to Community College. Sorry leftist, I am two degrees above that. How about you? The pilot in question has served his country and put something back into the system. How about you? Oh, yeah, you patriotically pay your taxes and protest BP. How honorable. You are way off base on your leftist defense of how poor the TSA is doing its job.

 

[BILL LUMBERG]

Good thing he's on the news showing what a joke the TSA is......the nationwide discussion has started. Iron gate on the Front door and a screen door in the back.

Maybe he's violated some vague SSI laws, but the jury of his peers would probably see otherwise. I have had the TSA stare at me for a burglary on my house while on a trip and an issued item was taken. I was guilty until I could prove innocent......

Sorry Kharma....Siding with this guy now. The jackboots could send him to Gitmo based on some of their manipulated legal definitions.