MES/CJC/PCL TA Summary

[BoilerUP]

Here are the DEETS:

http://www.mediafire.com/file/gbww2...C_JCBA_Tenative_Agreement_Summary__FINAL_.pdf

 

[Skippy]

it'll pass 70-30 it will pass.

i dont understand the use of the commuter policy-- use it twice and can get disciplined? thats doesnt make sense-- can someone explain that.

i would say an avg to slightly above avg contract-- soem thigns are good, others-- ehh

but at least a means to an end


SKIPPY

 

[OCP]

The problem is a lot of this stuff just brings them up to what a lot of old (ASA) contracts already have, and less than a lot of concessionary contracts used to have. So you are the 2nd biggest regional now? Mgt seems to REALLY want this done quickly. That is a lot of leverage to work with.

p.s. This is a 5 year deal!? Not good.

 

[WayBack]

i dont understand the use of the commuter policy-- use it twice and can get disciplined? thats doesnt make sense-- can someone explain that.

Wow, that hurts.
It's almost as if the company (and FAA) wants to do away with commuting.


S

 

[CptMurf]

Wow, that hurts.
It's almost as if the company (and FAA) wants to do away with commuting.


S

I've commuted for 12 years to DTW and MEM.... I've used the commuter policy once. I plan and watch my commutes. I wonder how often it is used, and if certain individuals use it more than others.

 

[paddlehigh]

That TA blows goat balls.

 

[the palm]

Who are these MES/CJC/PCL people and why are they using valuable thread space in the ASA forums?

 

[WMUSIGPI]

Who are these MES/CJC/PCL people and why are they using valuable thread space in the ASA forums?

We get the F.I. boards, you get Memphis. Seems like a fair trade to me.

 

[Uncle Bunkle]

Hopefully cowboy boots in the cockpit are banned on this contract.

 

[Flyer1015]

That TA blows goat balls.

Really? And what airline do you work at?


This TA isn't perfect, but it's definitely good. Section 1 is excellent in the event of future purchasing, because I have a feeling Corp isn't done buying airlines yet. Healthcare could have been a LOT worse, but it's still decent. More expensive than what Pinnacle has now, but even the new TA health benefits are a lot better than what other people have in various industries.

I'd still like to see the final document, and read all of it over. But based on this summary, my vote is a yes so far.

 

[suupah]

Who are these MES/CJC/PCL people and why are they using valuable thread space in the ASA forums?

A S who?

 

[WayBack]

. Section 1 is excellent in the event of future purchasing, because I have a feeling Corp isn't done buying airlines yet.

they should be, they shouldn't be bigger than a major airline.
this stuff keeps up, mainline will be nothing but a brand name and ALL domestic flying will be contracted out to the "regionals".

 

[higney85]

Hopefully cowboy boots in the cockpit are banned on this contract.

negative, even black socks are optional.

 

[RJLoser]

That TA blows goat balls.

Post yours ese.

 

[RJLoser]

Hopefully cowboy boots in the cockpit are banned on this contract.

Correct, your Saturday night outfit of cowboy boots and assless chaps is not allowed.

 

[bri5150]

they should be, they shouldn't be bigger than a major airline.
this stuff keeps up, mainline will be nothing but a brand name and ALL domestic flying will be contracted out to the "regionals".

Post that on the mainline board, where people have control of it.

 

[WayBack]

Post that on the mainline board, where people have control of it.

I should, but it would fall upon deaf ears.
They're the ones who were too good for those pesky lil regional jets in the early 1990's. Now the Delta pilots can't vote fast enough to keep giving away their flying.
Now with Gen Moak at the helm of ALPO, all the regionals are going to get more flying.

 

[RJLoser]

Wayback, why you so mad? Why don't you worry about your side of the street? Your going to stroke out brother.

 

[veneratio]

Really? And what airline do you work at?


This TA isn't perfect, but it's definitely good. Section 1 is excellent in the event of future purchasing, because I have a feeling Corp isn't done buying airlines yet. Healthcare could have been a LOT worse, but it's still decent. More expensive than what Pinnacle has now, but even the new TA health benefits are a lot better than what other people have in various industries.

I'd still like to see the final document, and read all of it over. But based on this summary, my vote is a yes so far.

Why VOTE yes at the first thing management is giving you, vote no and build on it.

 

[WayBack]

Wayback, why you so mad? Why don't you worry about your side of the street? Your going to stroke out brother.

I'm not mad, I quit getting mad a long time ago.
Just find it funny that management beats on a pilot group for so long, then the union produces some weak TA and everyone thinks it's "Industry leading".
Pathetic pay rates are accepted because the work rules are outstanding!

Way to raise the bar. It's obvious that pilots aren't doing this job for the pay, but more for the love of the flying and work rules.