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Regional FO nearly kills 113 people, CA in the bathroom

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The Directorate General of Civil Aviation said that the young co-pilot had not been trained to handle the situation and "probably had no clue to tackle this kind of emergency."


wow do these guys even have to go to flight school? or do they just do a powerpoint?
 
WIPilot said:
The Directorate General of Civil Aviation said that the young co-pilot had not been trained to handle the situation and "probably had no clue to tackle this kind of emergency."


wow do these guys even have to go to flight school? or do they just do a powerpoint?
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Probably trying to find the "Unusual Attitude disengage" button. I know! Those low time cadet programs work great don't they?
 
So, are "Express" pilots dangerous or are 737 pilots? Won't matter, they'll be one in the same here in a year or two.
 
1300TT...? I guess that's what happens when you let regional FOs fly larger equipment. Just kidding! Seriously, some of you guys need to get those pills that make your special purpose bigger. I can't imagine what it's like going through life with a pinky dik but it obviously makes a person have to over compensate for their lack of equipment size they fly (CX880).
 
Don't quite understand this; It says the F.O. has just a commercial certificate but it says he has an "endorsement as PIC" in a 737. Is that a sort of type? Either way, pulling a plane out of a dive should be an instinctual action by any pilot.
 
"Regional F/O?"... I don't think Air India Express is a regional, they go as far as Dubai.... plus the a/c was a 737-800.

Not quite sure why you folks on this board keep confusing majors/regionals/legacies/cargo/etc anytime their is an incident...
 
In India every aircraft (I know for sure multi-engine but I think I remember single engine as well) has it's own PIC endorsement that has to be on your license. So you would even have PIC endorsement for a Seneca (or a cessna 152! if I recall correctly).

The Captain's endorsements look reasonable. It looks like he got his endorsement for the Trinidad, then a Cessna 303, then C90 King Air, - so he progressed in what looks like a normal fashion. Then the 737.

The co-pilot has nothing other than the 737, and he had almost 970 of his 1300 hours on that.
 
The FO was probably covering his eyes as they were going down. Poor guy...

Good thing their door had a combination otherwise the CA would have been SOL.
 
That report is a little unclear but it said that the FO was trying to pull up when the AP was still on plus the warning sounds caused panic forcing him to basically give up. But it said that when the CA got in he got the airplane under control immediately. But it doesn't say if he disconnected the AP or what or how. Very confusing translation.
 
Overriding the control column on the 738 does not really disengage the autopilot, rather, it stays engaged and reverts to a condition called "CWS - Control Wheel Steering", in which the aircraft retains the last pitch attitude of the aircraft and holds it there. So, if he pushed against it and put it into a dive, the CWS portion of the autopilot would have kept it in that dive until it was corrected.
 
aa73 said:
Overriding the control column on the 738 does not really disengage the autopilot, rather, it stays engaged and reverts to a condition called "CWS - Control Wheel Steering", in which the aircraft retains the last pitch attitude of the aircraft and holds it there. So, if he pushed against it and put it into a dive, the CWS portion of the autopilot would have kept it in that dive until it was corrected.
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Similar to a certain L-1011 over a swamp on a moonless night. ( as far as CWS is concerned)
 

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