DAL New Hire Demographic

[fr8r]

I'm curious as to who has been hired at DAL? Prior 121... major or regional? 135 charter? Fractional Pilots? Corporate? Cargo? Military? What is the current preference if any?

Or is it all about internal recommendations?

Thanks I know that this is a tough one to answer... I'm just trying to figure my chances of getting a call.

 

[CLARKGRSWOLD]

If your a white male forget it

 

[jonjuan]

If your a white male forget it

Nope-no white males at DAL. None at AA or WN either.

 

[LearLove]

look at where the pilots are. there are less mil pilots than pre 911. plus more are opting to stay in the mil or go other paths than the traditional mil to 121 because of the post 911 state of the airlines and what this career has become. same with corp or 135. corp seems to be holding well in terms of job quality but there are less 135 gigs than 10 or 20 years ago thus less 135 pilots (not counting fracs). that leaves 121 regional/commuter guys who were the bulk in the "mini-boom" 07/08 hiring and will continue to be the bulk in the next hiring phase (2011ish and on).

my prediction going forward (for majors in general) is that 60 to 65% will be regional/commuter, 30 mil and 5-10% other (135/91corp).

when hiring starts mil and 121 pic RJ guys will get top billing. then jet 91 PIC followed by 121 time (regional/commuter) FO's w/ an ATP who haven't upgraded yet. The bottom will be 121 or 135 FO's with just a comm multi.

the majority of the hires is always turbine pic - mil or 121 turb PIC being the best quals followed closely by 91 turb pic.

so if you are:

mil - get a/c commander (or whatever they call it) time
121 - upgrade to PIC and get time
corp - move to the CA seat and be the one responsible for the aircraft
135 - same as above

 

[JonnyKnoxville]

Become a Minority...Like it or not, Delta has adopted the old United hiring practices.

 

[GogglesPisano]

If your a white male forget it

Also, if you're too lazy to type "you're."

 

[michael707767]

Become a Minority...Like it or not, Delta has adopted the old United hiring practices.

That's BS. I know of a female that was hired at UAL with just over 600 hours TT, about 50 of that ME. I still have the FAPA magazine that gave her statistics. I challenge you to show me anyone hired at Delta who is even close to that low in hours.

 

[retired guy]

What is a femal?

 

[SpauldingSmails]

Femal is a portmanteau. It is a combination of the words feral and female.
Feral, meaning escaped domestication and reintroduced to a wild or partly wild environment. Much like say, a feral child.

So a femal is most likely a woman who has been raised by wolves.

 

[RJ Bum]

Become a Minority...Like it or not, Delta has adopted the old United hiring practices.

that's bs, have you seen the new hire classes? granted a few more women the the "norm" but other than that the same 6' 180 lb white male with brown hair as the past. I think DAL even considers blonds as an minority... lol

 

[Mookie]

Femal is a portmanteau. It is a combination of the words feral and female.
Feral, meaning escaped domestication and reintroduced to a wild or partly wild environment. Much like say, a feral child.

So a femal is most likely a woman who has been raised by wolves.

Post of the year!!!! still laughing my ass off on that one....
:laugh:
Mookie

 

[michael707767]

So a femal is most likely a woman who has been raised by wolves.

I'll have to try that on my wife later.

 

[ACL65PILOT]

DAL is hiring pilots from all sorts of backgrounds. There are competitive mins that get you to the interview, but after that it is about the person you are not the pilot you think you are.

Their hiring practices are tired and true and they do hire a baseline candidate that DAL feels will perform well over the years for them. Wonder what that is, go look at your buddies that fly here.

Most are honest, hardworking, jovial, fun to be around, suspect to outsiders, and the like They really just want people who will show up to work, not be a drag and do the next right thing will maintaining a safe operation.

 

[Flyer1015]

They use a point system now:

+1 Woman
+1 Minority
+1 Huge Rack
+1 Pretty looks
+1 Internal recommendation

-5 White Male
-5 8000TT+
-5 No internal connections


Things may change in the future, but right now, it's slim pickings, and you have to have some serious connections to get hired at Delta today. Everyone I know hired (or even interviewed) this year had several internal (important) recommendations. No one I know or have heard of got a call this year without an internal rec.

 

[ACL65PILOT]

I dunno. I had a bunch of guys interview that had my LOR attached.

 

[dojetdriver]

Even when the "hiring boom" (relative term) comes, it'll STILL be a hyper competitive market. So.......

so if you are:

mil - get a/c commander (or whatever they call it) time

Even better if you can get IP/Standards eval qualified

121 - upgrade to PIC and get time

Even better if you become a check airman/LCA/sim instructor

corp - move to the CA seat and be the one responsible for the aircraft
135 - same as above

Take on a Chief pilot job, or instructor/LCA if 135.

Their hiring practices are tired and true and they do hire a baseline candidate that DAL feels will perform well over the years for them. Wonder what that is, go look at your buddies that fly here.

Since grammar was the theme is this thread, I hope they get some rest soon.

In all seriousness, how much of the current pilot demographic at DAL has been through the current process? Subtract out the Western and former NWA pilots.

 

[xjhawk]

DAL is hiring pilots from all sorts of backgrounds. There are competitive mins that get you to the interview, but after that it is about the person you are not the pilot you think you are.

Their hiring practices are tired and true and they do hire a baseline candidate that DAL feels will perform well over the years for them. Wonder what that is, go look at your buddies that fly here.

Most are honest, hardworking, jovial, fun to be around, suspect to outsiders, and the like They really just want people who will show up to work, not be a drag and do the next right thing will maintaining a safe operation.

There are some good people in class for Delta, they are the flow guys from Compass and MEsaba. I know the ONE non flow mesaba pilot that was hired was given so many breaks for breaking reserve rules, he was unprofessional how he treated schedulers and had low time. But it was a good thing he has some awesome contacts at Delta and his issues at Mesaba and breaking commuting rules were handled discretely. I have read some postings about ASA pilots complaining about the people they took from their pilot group that went to Delta. I try to judge people individually but with what is going on with Delta HR directing the hiring practices is not a good sign. Yes I am bitter the flow was pulled out from under me, I was given career expectations and then given a knife in the back. If Delta had kept the flow at Mesaba they would have been better for it, they would have gotten a amount of great people who have already proven themselves. Heck they could have even kept their "standards" and required a 4 year degree to flow.

 

[hockeypilot44]

There are some good people in class for Delta, they are the flow guys from Compass and MEsaba. I know the ONE non flow mesaba pilot that was hired was given so many breaks for breaking reserve rules, he was unprofessional how he treated schedulers and had low time. But it was a good thing he has some awesome contacts at Delta and his issues at Mesaba and breaking commuting rules were handled discretely. I have read some postings about ASA pilots complaining about the people they took from their pilot group that went to Delta. I try to judge people individually but with what is going on with Delta HR directing the hiring practices is not a good sign. Yes I am bitter the flow was pulled out from under me, I was given career expectations and then given a knife in the back. If Delta had kept the flow at Mesaba they would have been better for it, they would have gotten a amount of great people who have already proven themselves. Heck they could have even kept their "standards" and required a 4 year degree to flow.

Didn't most of the pilots from Mesaba that actually flowed up start at Mesaba well before the last hiring boom and well before Mesaba had a flow?

 

[Hose A. Jiminez]

Femal is a portmanteau. It is a combination of the words feral and female.
Feral, meaning escaped domestication and reintroduced to a wild or partly wild environment. Much like say, a feral child.

So a femal is most likely a woman who has been raised by wolves.

In "the good 'ole days" we hired femals to work in the cabin.

 

[808pilot]

Good friend of mine was a capt on the bro for skywest, just over 4k tt, no recs, applied online in the blind, 33yr old white male... Told me it took him way by surprise... Started class two months ago on the 9... Never know in this market... The rules are out the window at every company...