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Freebrd

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now for Aug ALL open time is 1 1/2. hire some damn pilots and quit screwing and PO the pilots by extending us. someone at the top of the heap needs canned for allowing it to get this far and not manning properly.
 
Yeah, it really sucks that Delta offered us more flying and we're now busy in this down economy! Bring back the 66 hour lines and no over-guarantee! Send the furloughs back, this blows.

Which is it guys, are we whining because we have guys furloughed or are we whining because we're working and they're offering 150% for open time pickups?
 
Mgmt. is planning on fast-tracking PBS to cover our extra flying needs. Will it be sufficient? We'll have to wait and see... In the mean time, enjoy the extra money.
 
Yeah, it really sucks that Delta offered us more flying and we're now busy in this down economy! Bring back the 66 hour lines and no over-guarantee! Send the furloughs back, this blows.

Which is it guys, are we whining because we have guys furloughed or are we whining because we're working and they're offering 150% for open time pickups?

We are whining because every time we read one of your completely retarded posts, we recognize the fact that it is even stupider than the last one we read...

Seriously-when will you ever get some kind of sense?

BTW- You officially have the dumbest avatar in the known universe!
 
We are whining because every time we read one of your completely retarded posts, we recognize the fact that it is even stupider than the last one we read...

Seriously-when will you ever get some kind of sense?

BTW- You officially have the dumbest avatar in the known universe!

You had 51 minutes to come up with something and that was the best you could do? You have kittens in your avatar (and yes, I read the caption, it doesn't make it any cooler)...
 
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You had 51 minutes to come up with something and that was the best you could do? You have kittens in your avatar (and yes, I read the caption, it doesn't make it any cooler)...

I'd think a TNG geek would be hip enough on internet memes to know about the domo-kun...
 
I'd think a TNG geek would be hip enough on internet memes to know about the domo-kun...

I've never been to Boukhalef. I have, however, changed my avatar, I need to impress my peers, so I've picked another popular internet Nerdapalooza character that best represents my unique individualism and desire to separate myself from the other 6.7 billion inhabitants of Earth...

The old avatar will reappear in one week.
 
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Data... I am sure he did not spend 51 minutes thinking of a come back. He probably left to go do something useful outside. Secondly, we do not have anyone furloughed anymore. So yes, it is both. We were complaining about being so short staffed and complaining that we HAD pilots on furlough.

I also read an email today that the GO is looking for ATL reserve pilots to volunteer for TDY reserve in IAD. I called scheduling to ask about it and they said they would actually try to build you a line first which would most likely happen and then if nothing else put you on reserve.
 
Yeah, it really sucks that Delta offered us more flying and we're now busy in this down economy! Bring back the 66 hour lines and no over-guarantee! Send the furloughs back, this blows.

Which is it guys, are we whining because we have guys furloughed or are we whining because we're working and they're offering 150% for open time pickups?

you friggin jerk, we're whining cause we hate being extended. if you don't have a life then call schd and tell em you'll pick up this crap. don't mind flying what I bid but when i'm scheduled to get off I don't need a damn extension slammed up me arse. some of us have a life outside of this place
 
I've never been to Boukhalef. I have, however, changed my avatar, I need to impress my peers, so I've picked another popular internet Nerdapalooza character that best represents my unique individualism and desire to separate myself from the other 6.7 billion inhabitants of Earth...

The old avatar will reappear in one week.

Oh, you are separated pretty good already... You see, the vast majority of the other 6.7 billion may actually stand some sort of chance of getting laid by another human at some point. You?- Not all that likely.

-See-you are pretty unique!
 
Oh, you are separated pretty good already... You see, the vast majority of the other 6.7 billion may actually stand some sort of chance of getting laid by another human at some point. You?- Not all that likely.

-See-you are pretty unique!

Another well played post, this one only took you 58 minutes!
 
Oh, you are separated pretty good already... You see, the vast majority of the other 6.7 billion may actually stand some sort of chance of getting laid by another human at some point. You?- Not all that likely.

-See-you are pretty unique!

Ahhhh SNAP! 58 minutes... see how much more you get with an extra 7 minutes of creative thinking! crj567, you just earned yourself a beer on me.
 
you friggin jerk, we're whining cause we hate being extended. if you don't have a life then call schd and tell em you'll pick up this crap. don't mind flying what I bid but when i'm scheduled to get off I don't need a damn extension slammed up me arse. some of us have a life outside of this place

You accepted the job and work under a contract which allows these extensions. If you don't like it, leave or try to get it changed. Sorry that working under those dreadful conditions makes me a jerk. It's embarrassing listening to ASA folks whine about everything. Carry on, you'll garner tons of sympathy in here but nothing will change.
 
Ahhhh SNAP! 58 minutes... see how much more you get with an extra 7 minutes of creative thinking! crj567, you just earned yourself a beer on me.

Your "positronic network" is impressive.. You gotta be running a 256 to come up with math skills like that!! Gosh, maybe you could get laid by a toaster!!

(and don't kid anyone about being a beer drinker-we all know you are more the wine cooler type.) Nothing to be ashamed of, if you swing that way.
-Just sayin'
 
crj, I was on your side making fun of the other guy. I was being sarcastic. sorry if you thought I was making fun of you.
 
crj, I was on your side making fun of the other guy. I was being sarcastic. sorry if you thought I was making fun of you.

Sorry dude-

I hit the wrong quote bar.... I guess it is all because I don't have the android skills of Data. My Bad....

-I was totally still making fun of DATA. I just suck at hitting the right buttons on these fancy computificator doodahs.
 
You accepted the job and work under a contract which allows these extensions. If you don't like it, leave or try to get it changed. Sorry that working under those dreadful conditions makes me a jerk. It's embarrassing listening to ASA folks whine about everything. Carry on, you'll garner tons of sympathy in here but nothing will change.

http://blog.onlinemetals.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/07/nerds.jpg


You were a hall monitor, weren't you?
 
Sorry dude-

I hit the wrong quote bar.... I guess it is all because I don't have the android skills of Data. My Bad....

-I was totally still making fun of DATA. I just suck at hitting the right buttons on these fancy computificator doodahs.

Good job, you can't even get the insults right.
 
Data... I am sure he did not spend 51 minutes thinking of a come back. He probably left to go do something useful outside. Secondly, we do not have anyone furloughed anymore. So yes, it is both. We were complaining about being so short staffed and complaining that we HAD pilots on furlough.

I also read an email today that the GO is looking for ATL reserve pilots to volunteer for TDY reserve in IAD. I called scheduling to ask about it and they said they would actually try to build you a line first which would most likely happen and then if nothing else put you on reserve.

When Delta offers you flying, you take it, regardless of what your staffing levels are. If Brad had said we need time to analyze our staffing levels Delta would have moved to the next Delta Connection carrier and we wouldn't be having this discussion. The furloughs would still be furloughed and your line values would still be sub-75. Ok, I get it, we should have the staffing levels set so that the people that want to work a lot one month can and then nothing the next if they're tired (based on their personal needs, of course), anything less than that sucks and ASA can suck it. Is that about right? Nevermind that there are other carriers out there who, by the way, run their businesses to make a profit for the shareholders, let's make this place summer camp with airplanes, for our enjoyment and profit, of course. Nevermind, I forgot the rule of FI, it's simply a flamer's paradise (no CRJ567, not that kind of flamer, keep your pants on), so I'll stick with the stuff you guys are more comfortable with... MESA SUX! </rant>
 
When Delta offers you flying, you take it, regardless of what your staffing levels are. If Brad had said we need time to analyze our staffing levels Delta would have moved to the next Delta Connection carrier and we wouldn't be having this discussion. The furloughs would still be furloughed and your line values would still be sub-75. Ok, I get it, we should have the staffing levels set so that the people that want to work a lot one month can and then nothing the next if they're tired (based on their personal needs, of course), anything less than that sucks and ASA can suck it. Is that about right? Nevermind that there are other carriers out there who, by the way, run their businesses to make a profit for the shareholders, let's make this place summer camp with airplanes, for our enjoyment and profit, of course. Nevermind, I forgot the rule of FI, it's simply a flamer's paradise (no CRJ567, not that kind of flamer, keep your pants on), so I'll stick with the stuff you guys are more comfortable with... MESA SUX! </rant>

Data...quit trying to use logic with these idiots...It won't work...
 
The furloughs are recalled but not all are online yet

The downgraded Captains are not back

Hiring pilots now would hardly change things now but I'm all for it.

Like someone else said, enjoy the extra pay and find the good in life, it's way too short.
 
Once all the furloughs are back and PBS is in effect, we won't be short staffed anymore...
 
Data... I am sure he did not spend 51 minutes thinking of a come back. He probably left to go do something useful outside. Secondly, we do not have anyone furloughed anymore. So yes, it is both. We were complaining about being so short staffed and complaining that we HAD pilots on furlough.

I also read an email today that the GO is looking for ATL reserve pilots to volunteer for TDY reserve in IAD. I called scheduling to ask about it and they said they would actually try to build you a line first which would most likely happen and then if nothing else put you on reserve.

What! Building lines for TDYs!? I'm going to have to talk to someone about this. If anything the lines should be built for IAD based reserves first then TDY ATL pilots to sit reserve.
 
The furloughs are recalled but not all are online yet

The downgraded Captains are not back

Hiring pilots now would hardly change things now but I'm all for it.

Like someone else said, enjoy the extra pay and find the good in life, it's way too short.

Several of the displaced captains ARE back. However, not all took the opportunity to re-upgrade, since they will be comuting to short call reserve in IAD. I just finished up OE two days ago with a cluster of pilots, and we're hitting the groud running.

I could see misjudging our staffing by a few pilots, but this many!?! Come on! We needed to be a little fat with expectation of more flying than anticipated. It happened like this last year, and the year before that, and before that, and before that........... Somebody dropped the ball, and they dropped it BAD. I'm hoping we get this fixed, and more importantly, I hope we learn from this. PBS will help, but it isn't the magic fix they think it will be, in my opinion.

I would like to see us hire and upgrade more folks. Without doubt, we've earned a bit of a respite this fall, as we have all paid our collective dues this summer. We're flying to the max, well at the expense of our life styles outside of work. Quite frankly we've lived to work for the past few months, and we can't keep this pace up without relief. Don't get me wrong, I want Atlantic Southeast to do well and succeed, but I want to have a life outside of work as well- I need the time recoup such that I can recharge to provide a safe, on time operation with a clear head and a touch of sanity.
 

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