The Airline Pilot Hat: What will become of it?

[denny]

But all these guys will make an extra effort to look their best in their complete uniform when they go shopping at Wal Mart, Costco, Sams. I have SEEN this crap! Really! Complete with ID badge swinging.

 

[Rez O. Lewshun]

True. But the same magazine said Tim Martins was a firefighter, an F-16 pilot, and an all-round great guy.

You wanna hat? You wear it. I just want pilots who have their $hit together...professionally, personally, and are ready to come to work and do their jobs. If you'd have to live on the road for a week out of single suitcase, you can appreciate having to pack only ONE jacket (ala FedEx, SWA, or Alaska) that you can still wear out to dinner. I wore mine today sightseeing in Paris. Its clean, and when I take it off my shirt underneath is clean and pressed, my tie is straight, and I don't have a t-shirt showing. I've seen plenty of "slobs with hats" in my time going through the terminals, and I don't think the hat added any credibility. Instead, it was just trying to polish a turd. For the sake of those even fatter than me I'll lay off the whole "belly over the belt" thing...but a hat on that doesn't make it look any better either.

Back in 2001 I used to brag I had been hired by three great organizations...FedEx, JetBlue, and the Air National Guard. What was the common thread? Hats were optional at all of them.... (okay...not really--but a joke for my ANG brethren)

How is the elected rep term coming along?

Your viewpoint lacks having worked for the regionals (where real airline pilots are made nowadays....) and passenger airlines..... quite a different world.....

Here is a great picture of a sharp pilot group wearing hats..... seems they wanted someting too...... and got it...

 

[denny]

Aiiiiieeeeee!!!!!! Wal Mart on Parade! Aiiiiiiiiieeeeee!

 

[AlbieF15]

I bought a hat simply because our company tracked how many we got. 99% of us use them for picketing...period. You can see even some folks without hats showed up, and of course were welcome. Hat sales indicated potential picketers. So--I do own a hat--I simply choose not to wear it.

Hats FOD engines. Hats are hot. Hats take up space in suitcases better used for running shoes, extra t-shirts, or porn magazines. They also look stupid. But if its required you wear it...just like I did in the Air Force. But even the AF, which makes our airmen wear reflective belts in a combat zone, has the sense to keep hats off around airplanes. That should tell you something right there...

Perchance a better effort on saving the profession would be to develop good communicators, solid sticks who can pass things along. If you want to do a hat crusade--do as you see fit. If FedEx makes the hat madatory--I'd wear it. Hell...I'd wear a pink tutu if that's what it took to fly F-15s (...yeah...here come the Eagle jokes). But if the biggest issue you have is with hats...have at it. Pilots wore hats in the 40s, 50s, and 60s, because most men of the times did too. Times change. Uniforms change. Airplanes change. I don't particularly want to go back to flying ADF approaches and using HF radios to make position reports, and I really don't want to be lugging a damn hat around all the time either. It'd be nice to be in the 1960's world of "Catch Me if You Can..."...dapper uniforms...hot flight attendants, etc etc. But c'mon...that's the movies...and those days have gone.

And I can tell you this...I certainly don't need a hat to go on strike. You need some money saved up, and you need backup plan. You need the ability to know when you leave it could be your last day in the industry. I think our pilot groups know that. And no hat is gonna make a dime's worth of difference to a group of pilots when they have to make those tough choices.

 

[rajflyboy]

I bought a hat simply because our company tracked how many we got. 99% of us use them for picketing...period. You can see even some folks without hats showed up, and of course were welcome. Hat sales indicated potential picketers. So--I do own a hat--I simply choose not to wear it.

Hats FOD engines. Hats are hot. Hats take up space in suitcases better used for running shoes, extra t-shirts, or porn magazines. They also look stupid. But if its required you wear it...just like I did in the Air Force. But even the AF, which makes our airmen wear reflective belts in a combat zone, has the sense to keep hats off around airplanes. That should tell you something right there...

Perchance a better effort on saving the profession would be to develop good communicators, solid sticks who can pass things along. If you want to do a hat crusade--do as you see fit. If FedEx makes the hat madatory--I'd wear it. Hell...I'd wear a pink tutu if that's what it took to fly F-15s (...yeah...here come the Eagle jokes). But if the biggest issue you have is with hats...have at it. Pilots wore hats in the 40s, 50s, and 60s, because most men of the times did too. Times change. Uniforms change. Airplanes change. I don't particularly want to go back to flying ADF approaches and using HF radios to make position reports, and I really don't want to be lugging a damn hat around all the time either. It'd be nice to be in the 1960's world of "Catch Me if You Can..."...dapper uniforms...hot flight attendants, etc etc. But c'mon...that's the movies...and those days have gone.

And I can tell you this...I certainly don't need a hat to go on strike. You need some money saved up, and you need backup plan. You need the ability to know when you leave it could be your last day in the industry. I think our pilot groups know that. And no hat is gonna make a dime's worth of difference to a group of pilots when they have to make those tough choices.

Thanks for a great post!!

 

[waveflyer]

I think albie touched on something pilots do awful- too many BMW fetishes, not enough back up plans-
you want your pay to get cut- get yourself in a financial situation where you can't walk away... It hurts us all when we make dumb financial choices... And it'll bite you

 

[Bjammin]

You know, I've spent 23 years in my country's military and couldn't find a decent airline job in the states when I got out so I went to work for a foreign airline, just because I needed a way to feed my family. Now, I'm embaressed that these kinds of arguments plague the airline industry in the great U.S. of A. while my company is kicking the a-- of every American carrier out there, PAX and freight. We wear the hats, we have specific dates between which we wear the jacket, and we are very proud of our airline. We ARE old school and we are keeping the dream alive. Flying heavy metal over the Oceans with the lovely F/A's and people dressed up to fly still exsists in my world. The image of the Pan Am 747 crew stepping off the flight from Paris is what I have in my mind as I walk through the terminal in a far off land coming from LAX. You can all say that will go the way of the hula hoop, I'm stuck up, or no one really cares, but most all will agree that somehow aviation was better then. It still exists!! Try hard to keep this profession professional and look the part for all the people that look to us for leadership, comfort, and peace of mind. It doesn't matter if the public pays 30 bucks or 3,000 bucks, they are looking at us, judging us, and are free to change their opinion of what we deserve solely based on how we look and act.

 

[AlbieF15]

Bjammin, I will spot you that the FAs from Emirates, Ethiad, Cathay, KAL, and Singapore Airlines are very pretty. Add LAN CHILE to that list too.

If it impressed THOSE ladies...I might wear the hat. Then again--if I were around those ladies, my wife would probably NOT like me flying as much as I'd like to...

Enjoy...

 

[waveflyer]

My company is also kicking the crap out of every airline in the u.s.--- and our hats are optional, we started the leather jacket deal, and our FA's will sing goofy songs.... if only they still wore hot pants and gogo boots... ;-)

i'll stick to my guns and say i know my role. If my company thought it was imperative to our image and marketing that i wear the hat- I would. A professional wears the uniform the way their company wants it worn.

I'll also stick to my guns that i haven't heard a great argument that the hat would lead to better revenues for the company, or a better contract for us. tenuous at best.

 

[rajflyboy]

You know, I've spent 23 years in my country's military and couldn't find a decent airline job in the states when I got out so I went to work for a foreign airline, just because I needed a way to feed my family. Now, I'm embaressed that these kinds of arguments plague the airline industry in the great U.S. of A. while my company is kicking the a-- of every American carrier out there, PAX and freight. We wear the hats, we have specific dates between which we wear the jacket, and we are very proud of our airline. We ARE old school and we are keeping the dream alive. Flying heavy metal over the Oceans with the lovely F/A's and people dressed up to fly still exsists in my world. The image of the Pan Am 747 crew stepping off the flight from Paris is what I have in my mind as I walk through the terminal in a far off land coming from LAX. You can all say that will go the way of the hula hoop, I'm stuck up, or no one really cares, but most all will agree that somehow aviation was better then. It still exists!! Try hard to keep this profession professional and look the part for all the people that look to us for leadership, comfort, and peace of mind. It doesn't matter if the public pays 30 bucks or 3,000 bucks, they are looking at us, judging us, and are free to change their opinion of what we deserve solely based on how we look and act.

Can I show your wife this email??