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Ever get Turned or Slowed for The "Love Machine"?

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rajflyboy

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Don't you hate it when the controller turns you out of the way or slows you down so that the SWA Love Machine can come blowing right by you?

The worst is actually on the ground when you are stopped so that SWA can blast in front of you (I most often see this in Nashville).

Now... What can we do about this? Call our congressman? It seems like discrimination to me!
 
When you grease the palms of the FAA what do you think is going to happen? Just wait, sooner or later they'll taxi by you at the SWA standard taxi speed of V1 and run off a taxi way.
 
More often on final I get slowed to 180 for an RJ to get in front...then 170, then 160, then S turns because they can't fly as fast on final as a Dash 8.

But then again that's probably because we have some pilots who refuse to fly fast to help ATC.
 
Don't you hate it when the controller turns you out of the way or slows you down so that the SWA Love Machine can come blowing right by you?

The worst is actually on the ground when you are stopped so that SWA can blast in front of you (I most often see this in Nashville).

Now... What can we do about this? Call our congressman? It seems like discrimination to me!

Cry me a river!
 
Maybe because when a controller is dealing with SWA they are confident they are actually going to fly their best forward speed, or actually continue the speed at which they caught up to you at. Drives me crazy when I see folks try and get to a fix first only to slow down and F* everyone behind them. At least SWA is honest about it and gets out of the way.

(and no, I don't work for them, and I think my application has expired, but I am 737 typed) :)
 
Now that SWA flies a CI of 20 (261-266kts in the decent), I doubt you're getting turned out so they can "blow right by you". Taxiing on the other hand is a whole different animal.
 
Got to be a running joke in MCI back in the day when I was flying the Kansas Cruise Missile (AKA: B1900). They would slow us down and put us on a ridicules down wind to let the "Herb Turd" in first.

Later on I heard that the Assistant Chiefs have a slush fund to buy pizza parties for the local controllers. I guess that it does not hurt that the LUV muffin brings is a lot of landing fees to these second tier airports.
 
Yeah......good idea sport. Call your Congressman. Or.......you could try doing what the controllers ask. I'm sure with all that loged flight time, and some practice, you can make it happen.
 
I get turned or slowed for just about every carrier out there. It has little to do with being SWA or not.
 
Standby for the luv-jet beatdown!
 
ATC knows that when they ask us for something - they are going to get it.

Translation from Raj - ":bawling::bawling::bawling:!"

Gup
aka The Speed Demon
 
One of my neighbors used to be a controller, and he told me the aircraft with the performance that is least like the other aircraft he is working will be the one to get turned or delayed. It's just that simple.
 
Having said that, one of the funniest things I heard on the radio went something like this:

Controller: Southwest XXX, didn't I give you 250 knots?
SWA XXX: We're doing 250 now.
Controller: Okay, fly heading 180
SWA XXX: ...(pause)...Okay, we're slowing...
 
Yeah......good idea sport. Call your Congressman. Or.......you could try doing what the controllers ask. I'm sure with all that loged flight time, and some practice, you can make it happen.



Sure thing "sport" just remember to fly like the controller asks you to and maybe next time I will not have to go around. And don't worry, someday you will be all grown up and have as many hours as me and you might be able to fly your plane as well as I can fly mine.
 
Don't you hate it when the controller turns you out of the way or slows you down so that the SWA Love Machine can come blowing right by you?

The worst is actually on the ground when you are stopped so that SWA can blast in front of you (I most often see this in Nashville).

Now... What can we do about this? Call our congressman? It seems like discrimination to me!

Don't think I've been passed by a 737 in the air. If they want to pass us on the ground, more power to them. I'll see them later on the airway above us doing .77 while I'm enjoying a steak at .83 and passing right below them on my way to a nice layover in a city far far away in a galaxy known as.......okay I'm losing it... I'm starting to sound like GeneralLee
 

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