Ever get Turned or Slowed for The "Love Machine"?

[AKMD80GUY]

At LAX:
LA Ground Alaska XXX clear 24L at AA.
Controller: Alaska XXX taxi E, hold short Y
(LUV is still on short final)

I dont care except when trying to make a tight commute home.

 

[GuppyWN]

I won. I work for a good company and I didn't have to buy a type rating to get hired!

You're right. Isn't it all about personal preferences and being happy? We both won.

Congrats,
Gup

 

[Tarquinn]

Don't you hate it when the controller turns you out of the way or slows you down so that the SWA Love Machine can come blowing right by you?

The worst is actually on the ground when you are stopped so that SWA can blast in front of you (I most often see this in Nashville).

Now... What can we do about this? Call our congressman? It seems like discrimination to me!

I hate it more when the guy next to me throws a tantrum about it.

 

[Whataburger]

Don't think I've been passed by a 737 in the air. If they want to pass us on the ground, more power to them. I'll see them later on the airway above us doing .77 while I'm enjoying a steak at .83 and passing right below them on my way to a nice layover in a city far far away in a galaxy known as.......okay I'm losing it... I'm starting to sound like GeneralLee

I had a steak in MAF last weekend at .00.
Mmmmmmmmmm, beef.

 

[lowlycfi]

Yeah, I'll put a steak from Wall Street in MAF up against a piece of galley leather any day.

 

[Allen1]

Dont you hate it when you here "Cactus" on the radio and it sounds like the man is tied to an IV sounding like he just came out of the retirement home and smoking about 17 packs of Cigs a day and someone shot his dog who will gladly get in everyones way? Or what about a guy that ask 17 times for a windcheck when the winds are calm (guess what airline...) im just saying........

Hold on if it sounds like he came out of a retirement home it must be one of the many old geezers from netjets on the radio! Wondering if some of the 70 year olds will try to make it to 80?

 

[dicko]

You're right. Isn't it all about personal preferences and being happy? We both won.

Congrats,
Gup

Kudos.

I enjoy seeing somebody getting their nose broken by a feather.

 

[Paul R. Smith]

Yes but I have been turned and slowed for AMR as well.

 

[Paul R. Smith]

I hate it more when the guy next to me throws a tantrum about it.

^^^^^THIS!!! +1000

I really, really hate listening to the Mary on PMS who has to get into it with the controller about it.

 

[rajflyboy]

As someone else mentioned earlier, these days it's not so much the doughnuts and whiskey, but more about not having the rep that "Unable" is your carrier's favorite response to ATC.

Every Jet and just about every Turboprop can do 200 or More to the Outer Marker.

Some of these guys do ride the final way too slow. I hate putting along at 120 knots 7 miles out on a clear day and still catching the guy in front of me. Its a waste of time!

 

[aewanabe]

Sadly enough I can't do 200 to the marker in the 190. Our POI has decided we are children and so even in VMC we gotta be stabilized at 1000 feet. Plus, no boards below 180 knots or above Flaps 1... 170-180 to the marker is all you're gonna get.

 

[rajflyboy]

Sadly enough I can't do 200 to the marker in the 190. Our POI has decided we are children and so even in VMC we gotta be stabilized at 1000 feet. Plus, no boards below 180 knots or above Flaps 1... 170-180 to the marker is all you're gonna get.

180 ish isnt horrible

I notice the 170's and 190's are a horrible ride in turbulence on approach. Faster = better for paying pax. Auto Throttles on those things are the worst in the business. Can't keep a damn speed worth a sh*t. Get slow... add a ton of power....then reduce power.... get too slow....add a ton of power. Its like a damn boat in high swells if there is any winds

I'm not impressed as a passenger on those things

Not to bang on your plane or anything

 

[aewanabe]

No worries, I agree the autothrottles suck. I turn them off as soon as I kill George because they can't keep up with handflying at all; they lag severely and although the fly-by-wire compensates for thrust changes it's a tad slow as well (think pitch oscillations). The autothrottles will happily work through a 10-15 percent N1 range for 2 knots of airspeed change, then allow the jet to unspool and get 3-4 knots slow before correcting. Anyone else taught to fly a jet that way? Didn't think so.

I'm glad the airplane is on JetBlue property because I generally enjoy working here and am thankful it's not JetBlue Express operated by Republic. But I'd much rather be flying the bus...

 

[Metro752]

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[Tejas-Jet]

I won. I work for a good company and I didn't have to buy a type rating to get hired!

I won too cuz, just like Gup, I work for the same great company, but I didn't "have to buy" my type rating.

Silly boy...did you really think one "had to buy" a type to work at SWA? Really ????

 

[rajflyboy]

No worries, I agree the autothrottles suck. I turn them off as soon as I kill George because they can't keep up with handflying at all; they lag severely and although the fly-by-wire compensates for thrust changes it's a tad slow as well (think pitch oscillations). The autothrottles will happily work through a 10-15 percent N1 range for 2 knots of airspeed change, then allow the jet to unspool and get 3-4 knots slow before correcting. Anyone else taught to fly a jet that way? Didn't think so.

I'm glad the airplane is on JetBlue property because I generally enjoy working here and am thankful it's not JetBlue Express operated by Republic. But I'd much rather be flying the bus...

Thanks for the info. Sounds like you know how to "Fly" and not "drive". I haven't road on JetBlue EMB's as of yet. I'm surprised how poorly some of the pilots fly this thing down the approach on the carriers I have rode on.

 

[rajflyboy]

I won too cuz, just like Gup, I work for the same great company, but I didn't "have to buy" my type rating.

Silly boy...did you really think one "had to buy" a type to work at SWA? Really ????

Reno Pilot??

 

[T B O N E]

The tax payers bought my type for me and I've been known to come up initial at 540+ when controllers clear us to - I think they like it.....Must be why they like working with SWA.

 

[rajflyboy]

The tax payers bought my type for me and I've been known to come up initial at 540+ when controllers clear us to - I think they like it.....Must be why they like working with SWA.

You flying the space shuttle??

 

[IAHERJ]

Yeah, I'll put a steak from Wall Street in MAF up against a piece of galley leather any day.

Well I'd prefer a nice medium rare ribeye from Eddy V's in Austin as well but I've been pleasantly surprised at the new menu choices on the 757 and 767 this year. And out in the Pacific on the 767-400 out of Guam and Japan, the menu is set for crews but always spicy and tasty. The Guam based FA's will cook and bring things to heat up on the NRT day trips. They always offer us their homeade treats on top of our crew meals. But I know, I'm just a lowly FO who doesn't make $200 and hour and doesn't get to enjoy power layovers of 12-16 hours where a mad dash to a steak place to throw my money around and suck a few drinks down before I bump up against the 8 hour rule.......my life sucks.....