Future of Piedmont at LGA?

[johnsonrod]

Now that the Delta/USAirways asset/slot swap at LGA and DCA seems to be in jeopardy (thanks to Sen. Schumer and his cronies), what will likely happen to PDT's LGA operation? Will it remain the same (status quo with same destinations and frequencies) or will it change? Any rumors or thoughts? What's the latest info?

Good luck to all involved!

 

[Jar Jar]

i almost think you could probably google the answer to this question by now, its out there. Its certainly on this forum.

No deal = "status quo"

 

[pipejockey]

I was looking forward to never seeing those da*n turbo-props ever again at LGA. Why can't anything good ever happen in this industry?

 

[kf4amu]

I was looking forward to never seeing those da*n turbo-props ever again at LGA. Why can't anything good ever happen in this industry?

I think we can all agree RJ's are the exact opposite of "good" that happened to this industry.

 

[pipejockey]

I think we can all agree RJ's are the exact opposite of "good" that happened to this industry.

If I woke up and heard that every RJ disappeared from the face of the planet would be the happiest day of my life!!! But at least they don't hold me up as much!

 

[kf4amu]

If I woke up and heard that every RJ disappeared from the face of the planet would be the happiest day of my life!!! But at least they don't hold me up as much!

If that bothers you, then you must work for a company that doesn't have block or better.

 

[WSurf]

If I woke up and heard that every RJ disappeared from the face of the planet would be the happiest day of my life!!! But at least they don't hold me up as much!

Hold you up from what? Are you that much of a hurry to see you boyfriend?

 

[OPECJet]

If I woke up and heard that every RJ disappeared from the face of the planet would be the happiest day of my life!!! But at least they don't hold me up as much!

I call horse manure on that one. Everyone gets slowed to 170 anyway.

 

[LowlyPropCapt]

If I woke up and heard that every RJ disappeared from the face of the planet would be the happiest day of my life!!! But at least they don't hold me up as much!

Yup... Absolute horsesh*t.

If I had a dime for every time I got slowed down in my Dash for a jet of some sort on final, I'd have enough money to buy you an arse whoopin' and I'd have change left over for coffee and a donut.

 

[pipejockey]

If that bothers you, then you must work for a company that doesn't have block or better.

ATC can't move traffic on time on a good day, let alone when a could appears in the sky. So I just choose to go as fast as the aircraft was designed to go and get out of the airspace as quickly as possible. I mean people travel by air to save time. And these airlines want us to dick around at .72? Gimme a break!

 

[WSurf]

ATC can't move traffic on time on a good day, let alone when a could appears in the sky. So I just choose to go as fast as the aircraft was designed to go and get out of the airspace as quickly as possible. I mean people travel by air to save time. And these airlines want us to dick around at .72? Gimme a break!

Well that all made sense! Why after reading that do suddenly feel like a M.I.T. Graduate!

 

[kf4amu]

ATC can't move traffic on time on a good day, let alone when a could appears in the sky. So I just choose to go as fast as the aircraft was designed to go and get out of the airspace as quickly as possible. I mean people travel by air to save time. And these airlines want us to dick around at .72? Gimme a break!

If Dash pilots flew the -8 as fast as it was designed to, the arrival rate would double. Faster approach speeds, and less time on the runway. Unfortunately we gotta wait for the RJ's using 8000 feet of runway because they float and can't stop very well.

 

[Flyer1015]

Unfortunately we gotta wait for the RJ's using 8000 feet of runway because they float and can't stop very well.

RJs float not due to aircraft design, rather, poor pilot technique.

 

[LowlyPropCapt]

ATC can't move traffic on time on a good day, let alone when a could appears in the sky. So I just choose to go as fast as the aircraft was designed to go and get out of the airspace as quickly as possible. I mean people travel by air to save time. And these airlines want us to dick around at .72? Gimme a break!

Huh? The way you wrote that makes no sense whatsoever, but I will take a swipe at it anyway...

Many PDT folks who have been around for a while could back me up on this: Y'all remember when we used to do CLT-FAY? We used to depart about the same time as a mainline Dutch Oven (Fokker 100) that was going to FAY as well. We beat them almost every time. Why? We went low and direct, more or less. They flew way the heck up over RDU to get higher and burn less gas. The moral of the story? On shorter stage lengths cruise speed is not the sole determinant of block time. The same is still true today, LGA-PHL and PHL-ABE come to mind. The block times are the same. The speed only makes a difference on longer routes.

Oh yeah, the other night up in the northeast, when all the jets were canceling flights due to the high winds, the dashes were still safely (albeit not comfortably!) transporting their passengers to and from PHL and LGA. The 36 knot crosswind limitation is nice, and so is the big rudder!

 

[aa73]

The Dash rocks. RJs suck. Next.

 

[kf4amu]

RJs float not due to aircraft design, rather, poor pilot technique.

You said it not me!

 

[WSurf]

Huh? The way you wrote that makes no sense whatsoever, but I will take a swipe at it anyway...

Many PDT folks who have been around for a while could back me up on this: Y'all remember when we used to do CLT-FAY? We used to depart about the same time as a mainline Dutch Oven (Fokker 100) that was going to FAY as well. We beat them almost every time. Why? We went low and direct, more or less. They flew way the heck up over RDU to get higher and burn less gas. The moral of the story? On shorter stage lengths cruise speed is not the sole determinant of block time. The same is still true today, LGA-PHL and PHL-ABE come to mind. The block times are the same. The speed only makes a difference on longer routes.

Oh yeah, the other night up in the northeast, when all the jets were canceling flights due to the high winds, the dashes were still safely (albeit not comfortably!) transporting their passengers to and from PHL and LGA. The 36 knot crosswind limitation is nice, and so is the big rudder!

Hell, even BAL-RDU we took off just in front of the SouthWest flight to RDU. They would touch down right in front of us. If it wasn't for the SouthWest Taxi Speed we woulda bet them to the gate Q400 would have dusted it on that flight.

 

[Metro752]

 

[WSurf]

Why are we even discussing this? We get paid Block or Better! Hell, Flying Low and Slow =$$$$$$$$$$

 

[Metro752]

yep, and quiet