Avantair Hiring

[surveypilot]

Does anyone have any info on the hiring plans at Avantair? I know the application window closed a couple of weeks ago. How many are they planning on hiring and when should interviews start?

Thanks

 

[glasspilot]

I believe you have to have successfully landed in the Hudson, have at least 5 shuttle flight missions of which 2 must have been Mission Commander or save the CEO from certain death in order to be competitive.

 

[surveypilot]

I believe you have to have successfully landed in the Hudson, have at least 5 shuttle flight missions of which 2 must have been Mission Commander or save the CEO from certain death in order to be competitive.

I was afraid that was the case. I can't imagine how many resumes Avantair received in that 2 week window.

 

[gutshotdraw]

I believe you have to have successfully landed in the Hudson, have at least 5 shuttle flight missions of which 2 must have been Mission Commander or save the CEO from certain death in order to be competitive.

No, that was United back in the day....


And you forgot the lunar landing

 

[Dilligaff]

I haven't heard anything official from management about numbers and time frames, but this is the general information that I've heard from the pilot group so don't take it as gospel.

They are looking at internal recommendations first. I've heard there were about 80 internal recommendations for 4 to 8 slots initially so the chances of getting in without a recommendation are pretty slim right now. Also, there were a handful of pilots who have been in a pool for a long time and they are going to have the first shot at those slots. Depending on who I talk to and when, it looks like somewhere between 25 and 40 new hires in 2010 depending on how many deliveries we take.

 

[surveypilot]

Thanks Dilligaf. That is the type of info that I was looking for

They are looking at internal recommendations first. I've heard there were about 80 internal recommendations for 4 to 8 slots initially so the chances of getting in without a recommendation are pretty slim right now. Also, there were a handful of pilots who have been in a pool for a long time and they are going to have the first shot at those slots. Depending on who I talk to and when, it looks like somewhere between 25 and 40 new hires in 2010 depending on how many deliveries we take.

 

[-FlyAuburn-]

I believe you have to have successfully landed in the Hudson, have at least 5 shuttle flight missions of which 2 must have been Mission Commander or save the CEO from certain death in order to be competitive.

No offense guys, but when things get THAT competitive for 35k a year, we should ALL be embarrassed!

 

[dime line]

No offense guys, but when things get THAT competitive for 35k a year, we should ALL be embarrassed!

well said.

 

[glasspilot]

for you two ding dongs I thought of a better post below:

 

[glasspilot]

No offense guys, but when things get THAT competitive for 35k a year, we should ALL be embarrassed!

If we paid 60K a year to start and then furloughed you after a year would that make you feel better?

NJA is putting pilots on the street. That is a fact. Avantair is hiring, that too is a fact. Why would you slam a company that is obviously doing better than yours?

You are the one who should be embarrassed. NJA kicks someone to the curb and you have the audacity to make snarkey comments about possible future employment for your fellow NJA brothers? How about you wish them well and hope they get whatever job they apply for? Too much for ya?

 

[-FlyAuburn-]

If we paid 60K a year to start and then furloughed you after a year would that make you feel better?

NJA is putting pilots on the street. That is a fact. Avantair is hiring, that too is a fact. Why would you slam a company that is obviously doing better than yours?

You are the one who should be embarrassed. NJA kicks someone to the curb and you have the audacity to make snarkey comments about possible future employment for your fellow NJA brothers? How about you wish them well and hope they get whatever job they apply for? Too much for ya?

Wow, talk about jumping to conclusions.

First of all, I am one of my "fellow NJA brothers". I'll be jobless in a month.

Secondly, it wasn't meant as a slam to Avantair specifically, but more to the fact that we have ALL let our profession down for competing so fiercely for such low pay, instead of "just saying no".

Finally, NJA putting pilots on the street has zilch to do with how much they compensate the professionals that do the work, and everything to do with what happened to our economy, along with some poor management decisions. That also goes for the success that your company is having in the short term, capturing some market share from the small cabin segment which was the first segment to see mass sell-backs of shares after the downturn.

The pay at NJ is right where it should be for what we do and the amount of money that is changing hands back and forth. The numbers that didn't add up were not financial numbers, they were pilots vs. airplanes, period.

All I was saying is that it is a sad day when this profession (or any that requires this much education, dedication, money, blood, sweat, tears etc.) has reached the point where people are having to compete that fiercely, especially at this level (2500 hour mins etc.), for that kind of compensation. It's just not right and we should all be ashamed.

I think that there are those among us that would agree wholeheartedly.

 

[AftCG182]

No offense guys, but when things get THAT competitive for 35k a year, we should ALL be embarrassed!

well said.

Greed. Selfishness. Disgusting. You two ought to be ashamed of yourselves. Speak poorly about my company as much as you want. We're hiring, your company's putting people into an unexpected hardship.

Gloating about it on top of everything. dime line: I hope your family enjoys their holiday season while 500 other families suck it up. FlyAuburn: sorry for what's happenning to you. There's plenty of your co-workers' families who aren't going to as well... That sucks, big time. My heartfelt sympathy to all of you.

FlyAuburn, your short-sighted comment is exactly why this industry is stuck in the rut that it's in. $35K to start isn't embarassing, it's what's needed to get a relatively new company off the ground and stabile.

Yeah, start in the mid $60's, make money for a couple of years and get furloughed. Makes sense? Not to me...

 

[glasspilot]

Well...Continental pays $27K to start. You could try there..oh wait. They have over a hundred on furlough too.

Good luck. Too bad Avantair sucks too much for you. There must be some job out there that will start you at 60K. Let us know what you find.

 

[Nolife]

It's not pilots driving down wages it’s basic supply and demand. In good times, Avantair will have to give raises or suffer perpetual turnover and vice versa.

I agree that having 6000+ hrs turbine PIC, an internal rec from former students, a CMH, and an LOR from the Commandant of the Marine Corps is excessive for an entry-level job but that is what the market dictates. BTW... my app is in with Avantair as well.

 

[glasspilot]

And that is my point. Avantair is NOT an entry level job. I came here with 1,000 plus jet PIC and over 5K TT. Maybe it wAs once, but no more. Avantair is a destination job and if you do not agree then do not apply. As I pointed out, our first year pay is above CAL and they are a major.

To those furloughed, good luck. I mean that.