Come to recurrent armed?

[CFI2766]

People, I'm not looking to be the next Bernard Goetz. It's not my intention to sit in the parking lot behind the trees 'waiting' for something to happen.

Sheesh, some of the responses here are evidence of a lack of intellect. Instead of addressing the original question, there are responses citing penis size and paranoia.

It is a simple fact that the parking lot in question has clearly become known as a place where the local community inhabitants can make an easy score. The crime that happens in that area is a recurring problem that has affected ASA crew in the past and will realistically affect ASA crew and employees in the future.

The cameras provided by the vendor, if they are monitored at all, are currently covered by vegetation, and have been for years. The parking lot has no physical security at all.

 

[CFI2766]

IF I were in a situation where unarmed combat were required, I would feel very comfortable with my situation.

However, I suspect that the more realistic confrontation in the named area will be an ASA pilot against another individual possessing a weapon of some sort. Being honest here, there are pilots that are required to be at that facility that would have very little chance of successfully defending themselves.

 

[crj567]

People, I'm not looking to be the next Bernard Goetz. It's not my intention to sit in the parking lot behind the trees 'waiting' for something to happen.

Sheesh, some of the responses here are evidence of a lack of intellect. Instead of addressing the original question, there are responses citing penis size and paranoia.

It is a simple fact that the parking lot in question has clearly become known as a place where the local community inhabitants can make an easy score. The crime that happens in that area is a recurring problem that has affected ASA crew in the past and will realistically affect ASA crew and employees in the future.

The cameras provided by the vendor, if they are monitored at all, are currently covered by vegetation, and have been for years. The parking lot has no physical security at all.

Good points, but never try to argue with anyone stupid enough to have voted for Obama. These idiots will only start to compare the camera vegitation with the size of someone's penis. They will then start screaming "homophobe!" "anti-muslim!" "blood-thirsty warmonger!" "evil capitalist!" and "baby-killer" at you...

I know none of this has even the slightest logical relevance to the situation, but these people are not well-acquainted with the idea of logic-they are really pretty much one-trick ponies.

 

[JumpersAway]

............................So how many of our training department folks, who work there regularly, and drive some of the nicest cars, have issues with the F.S. area?

As tempting as it would be to blow someone's head off for breaking into my car, the truth is that it isn't punishable by death. If someone is breaking into your car and you kill them, you're in a heap of s#$t. Right or wrong, Democrat or Republican, it's just the way it is.

I agree that the area isn't the best for a walk in the park at midnight, but it isn't as bad as many here make it out to be. A little S/A and common sense go a long way. Lock your car and keep the interior clean of clutter or anything that looks to be of value............

 

[johnpeace]

As tempting as it would be to blow someone's head off for breaking into my car, the truth is that it isn't punishable by death. If someone is breaking into your car and you kill them, you're in a heap of s#$t. Right or wrong, Democrat or Republican, it's just the way it is.

So, you come out of the sim at 2am, debrief and go out to the parking lot to go home. You get all the way across the parking lot to your car and when you arrive there, find a criminal in the process of taking all your stuff. You yell, 'hey!', because it's your stuff. Criminal turns around with a gun/knife.

Would you rather be:
a) armed with a handgun
b) unarmed

This is an easy test, no answer is really wrong.

Oh, you have 1.5 seconds to answer...after that you'll be in shock from either the blood loss or the trauma of being involved in a defensive shooting.

Good luck.

 

[Max Q]

I would shoot him in the kneecaps and give him a job application.

 

[JumpersAway]

So, you come out of the sim at 2am, debrief and go out to the parking lot to go home. You get all the way across the parking lot to your car and when you arrive there, find a criminal in the process of taking all your stuff. You yell, 'hey!', because it's your stuff. Criminal turns around with a gun/knife.

Would you rather be:
a) armed with a handgun
b) unarmed

This is an easy test, no answer is really wrong.

Oh, you have 1.5 seconds to answer...after that you'll be in shock from either the blood loss or the trauma of being involved in a defensive shooting.

Good luck.

If he's breaking into my car, it's to steal a bubble gum wrapper or some sunflower seeds, because that's all I ever leave in there, unlike some who leave their 3000 dollar stash of audio equipment, or GPS in plain view............

How about looking at your car before you waltz far enough away from the doors of FS for it to matter? Why not call the cops when you start your walk to the car, and notice someone is standing there breaking into your vehicle to take what you left in plain sight?

Also, yelling "Hey" sorta gives away the element of suprise........ don't ya think that's an ace in the hole? Why yell that when you could walk up behind him, and simply beat the $hit out of them with your 50 pound flight case. Personally, I think that would be gratifying and marginally entertaining.

If the guys got a gun, he's probably going to be more adept at shooting at people than you are- just food for thought.............

 

[BoilerUP]

This thread is full of FAIL.

And no, criminals aren't going to be better marksman than the average active CCW permit holder.

 

[rjacobs]

I am guessing that 95% of the people who have posted in this thread have never carried a gun and possibly never even shot a gun. Most of the responses reek of ignorance. There are a few that are intelligent and I am guessing those people carry guns all the time as well as train with how to use them in a defensive situation.

If somebody is breaking into your car i.e. burglary it is legal in most states that have CCW laws to stop that person from burglarizing your car. If you try to stop that person(which ya should) and they come at you then it is legal and justifiable for you to shoot them.

If GA law says its legal for a person to carry into this particular flight safety building and their is no policy or signage that prohibits it, then the person is well within their right to carry. It is up to that person to decide if they want to carry their gun, not yours or anybody elses.

 

[xjgearbtch]

Pop quiz you have two seconds to decide if you've watched the movie Speed too many times. If you feel your life is in danger then you a) write the company b) grieve it c) request a security escort to your car d) walk out with your sim partner. Bringing a unauthorized weapon will only bring you trouble. This isn't Somollia you're blowing this way out of proportion. Respond with an appropriate course of action. A gun is step 1,000 I suspect you haven't even contacted the company.
Ps I've shot guns many times, courtesy of uncle sam. I'm just smart enough to realize the sim facility is not as dangerous as Kosovo. You need to clue in to reality.