Cal 24, USC 7

[makersmarc]

Big game tonight. Cal (24) meets USC (7). Wish I didn't have to work or I'd watch it.

 

[WateryGrave]

After last weeks 42-3 beatdown I'm predicting another chokeshow by Cal. 31-7 SC. And yes I remember the Washington game.

 

[USCtrojan]

If Kal can run the ball, they should do well. Last team that ran the ball effectively against USC was Oregon State. Riley isn't that great of a QB, so we'll see.

Trojan

 

[USCtrojan]

Wow, it's getting ugly. Maybe the title thread should change.

Trojan

 

[LazyLightnin']

On a scale from 1 to 10, how weak is the PAC-10?

 

[LazyLightnin']

Scratch that. Let me replace the word "weak" with irrelevant...

 

[79%N1]

On a scale from 1 to 10, how weak is the PAC-10?

Not weak at all...1 I'd say. Many college expert analysts rank it 2nd behind the SEC, and I'd agree. In the Big 12, after Texas there is not much. Oklahoma doesn't look so great. The Pac10 was 5-0 in bowls last year, and despite the loss at Wash, USC is a top 5 team. Oregon looks tough after the early loss, Wash is a good looking team with Locker. UCLA is coming back up. Pretty strong I'd say.

What other conferences have a better top to bottom? Big 10 Maybe? ACC maybe? But not as weak as you think.

 

[USCtrojan]

Pac 10

A lot of people like to spout, of course when they lose ;-).

By one measure, the answer is no. Since the 2000 season, the Pac-10 has the best record in games against the other Bowl Championship Series conferences (81-62, a .566 winning percentage). The Pac-10 also has a .500-or-better record during this period against each of the other five major conferences. The SEC ranks second among the six BCS conferences with a .528 mark, while the other four conferences are all under .500. Bringing up the rear is the Big Ten with a .475 winning percentage.
The Pac-10 often gets little respect from fans and media. The conference's teams were a miserable 2-6 against the Mountain West last season, and this season Oregon lost decisively to Boise State of the Western Athletic Conference in a key early matchup. Critics say the conference would be nothing without USC. But even without the Trojans' 19-3 record against the other BCS conferences since 2000, the Pac-10 would still be above .500.
As for the Big Ten's poor showing, there are some mitigating circumstances. Since 2000, Big Ten teams have had the misfortune of playing (and losing) eight games against USC, which hasn't faced a single Big East team during this span. Also, the Big Ten annually plays several bowl games in enemy territory, including the warm-weather Rose and Capital One Bowls.
—Darren Everson
West Is the Best

Including bowl games, here are the win-loss records this decade for the six major college football conferences when playing against one another, through Saturday:
BCS CONFERENCE W L WIN% Pac-108162.566SEC9484.528Big 128185.488ACC*99108.478Big East*7784.478Big Ten8493.475*Includes the win-loss records of whichever teams were in the conference in any given year

Trojan

 

[USCtrojan]

Will the losers eat crow? Sadly not. Most will make excuses. But it's okay, I'm very used to it working in and around SEC people.

New Title Thread....USC 30 Kal 3 Could've been 37 to 3 but Coach Carroll decided to take a knee and spare Kal.

Trojan

 

[LazyLightnin']

Not weak at all...1 I'd say. Many college expert analysts rank it 2nd behind the SEC, and I'd agree. In the Big 12, after Texas there is not much. Oklahoma doesn't look so great. The Pac10 was 5-0 in bowls last year, and despite the loss at Wash, USC is a top 5 team. Oregon looks tough after the early loss, Wash is a good looking team with Locker. UCLA is coming back up. Pretty strong I'd say.

What other conferences have a better top to bottom? Big 10 Maybe? ACC maybe? But not as weak as you think.

The FudgePAC-10

Ok.. Let me see if I have this straight.. It goes...

SEC, BIG 12... and then maybe ACC, maybe BIG 10, or maybe Pac 10. Six more and you've named 'em all!! Pick one.

And yes I know Washington beat USC, for Christs' sake. But that's like watching a smaller midget pin down a not so small midget to claim the midget wrestling title..

http://www.microwrestling.com/about/



Sure USC is the best of the PAC 10, but that's because they don't play anyone worth a damn (except for Stanford). Much like saying Boise St. is good this year because they beat the rest of the teams in the WAC! The WAC and the PAC 10 should combine into one conference in order to make it fair for those in more serious conferences.

 

[goahead]

Not weak at all...1 I'd say. Many college expert analysts rank it 2nd behind the SEC, and I'd agree. In the Big 12, after Texas there is not much. Oklahoma doesn't look so great. The Pac10 was 5-0 in bowls last year, and despite the loss at Wash, USC is a top 5 team. Oregon looks tough after the early loss, Wash is a good looking team with Locker. UCLA is coming back up. Pretty strong I'd say.

What other conferences have a better top to bottom? Big 10 Maybe? ACC maybe? But not as weak as you think.

You must be on drugs. The big televe has been better than the sec on and off for the past three years thanks only to FL. They are so much better than the PAC 10. Talk about west coast kook-aid there's plenty to go around.

 

[USCtrojan]

WAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH WAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

Blah blah blah blah. Thanks! your thoughts actually give me a warm fuzzy. It's actually fun watching you throw tantrums! LMAO!!

Trojan

 

[makersmarc]

New thread title: Cal unranked, USC 6

Va Tech gave up too many points to Duke and will drop a notch or two.

People watch the games to see the offense, but everybody knows that defense (D-FENCE!) wins games.

 

[79%N1]

No, not on drugs. And, I wasn't really giving my opinion. I said that in watching College Football expert analysts, most of them say the Pac 10 has the second best conference to the SEC. In thinking it through, I merely suggested if not, then who is the next best conference? I give you the ACC, Big 12, and Big 10 as possibilities. If you want my opinion, I think the ACC this year with Miami, Va Tech, BC, Ga Tech and FSU have a pretty deep conference this year.

As far as the whole Big 12 --- Not too impressed this year. Like I said, after Texas what is there? Nebraska is down. Oklahoma just lost to Miami and is 2-2. Ok Stateand Kansas are pretty good. Kansas St, Missouri, Baylor, A & M or Texas Tech don't impress me at all.


Thats my opinion, but I'm a Big East fan, so what do I know.

 

[scottm]

Take a walk through Heritage Hall and let me know how "weak" USC is. I love when Sc beats VT, OSU, Arkansas,etc......excuses are made. Trestle lost the game for us. So and so were hurt. Get over it. A school that pulls players from FL, NJ, TX and all over CA obviously knows what it's doing. In Pete we trust.

 

[USCtrojan]

Take a walk through Heritage Hall and let me know how "weak" USC is. I love when Sc beats VT, OSU, Arkansas,etc......excuses are made. Trestle lost the game for us. So and so were hurt. Get over it. A school that pulls players from FL, NJ, TX and all over CA obviously knows what it's doing. In Pete we trust.

FIGHT ON!!!!

Trojan

 

[CapnVegetto]

You must be on drugs. The big televe has been better than the sec on and off for the past three years thanks only to FL. They are so much better than the PAC 10. Talk about west coast kook-aid there's plenty to go around.

Big 12 is nothing but a paper tiger, and the bowls last year proved it.

Ole Miss took Texas Tech to the Woodshed.

Oklahoma St. lost to Oregon.

Texas squeaked by an overrated Ohio State with a freshman QB.

The 'best offense in the history of college football', Oklahoma, got beat by Florida and held to their lowest yardage and point totals of the year.

The bowl games proved that the huge offensive numbers generated in the Big 12 last year weren't due so much to great offense, but terrible defense.

Right now I think it's SEC, PAC-10, Big 12, and the others. Most experts agree with me. Even in a bit of a down year, the SEC is still better than anywhere else. Thank you Cal for proving that.

 

[timmay]

The FudgePAC-10

Ok.. Let me see if I have this straight.. It goes...

SEC, BIG 12... and then maybe ACC, maybe BIG 10, or maybe Pac 10. Six more and you've named 'em all!! Pick one.

And yes I know Washington beat USC, for Christs' sake. But that's like watching a smaller midget pin down a not so small midget to claim the midget wrestling title..

http://www.microwrestling.com/about/



Sure USC is the best of the PAC 10, but that's because they don't play anyone worth a damn (except for Stanford). Much like saying Boise St. is good this year because they beat the rest of the teams in the WAC! The WAC and the PAC 10 should combine into one conference in order to make it fair for those in more serious conferences.

Ummm how about Ohio State and Notre Dame for non conference games. You want to see a joke look at the SEC teams schedule AKA Florida. Their big games are an extremely over rater LSU then Georgia WOW.

 

[cybourg10]

An easy way to settle this would be to actually have a playoff system. That way teams would schedule tougher non conference games. How many teams go to bowl games now?

 

[ohplease!]

An easy way to settle this would be to actually have a playoff system. That way teams would schedule tougher non conference games. How many teams go to bowl games now?

I believe the Republicans actually suggested this system but the Democrats vetoed it.