SWA searching for more deals, SWAPA salivating----article

[Fubijaakr]

Alaska and Airtran are the only things that make sense to me.

Kelly said all 737s, southwest to purchase itself, all employees will be stapled!!!!

You've got to be kidding, twice. Alaska is ALL 737s with international and Hawaii NOW not sometime in the "Air Tran" future.

But, if you think Alaska pilots would accept a staple then, NO DEAL.

 

[Benjamin Dover]

Seeing how SWA botched this one, SWA, SWAPA and the true believers actually thought that you could buy F9 out of bankruptcy, ignore A-M, furlough the F9 employees and only interview them on an as need be basis, that it's obvious who knows nothing about mergers and acquisitions.

"Pushing the auction back to get an agreement shows how interested SWA is in this transaction. Ultimately they'll probably press forward with or without the pilots coming to an agrement"

Wait, who said that.... was that me ...

 

[Benjamin Dover]

Tell that to SWA management.....they don't seem to trust their own pilots it seems....


Bye Bye--General Lee

GL,

I think it is FANTASTIC that all your "Delta Connection" regionals get to fly all those routes that management doesn't trust mainline to fly to anymore. I flew MD-88 there for many years. YYZ and YUL were some fun layovers - who flies those now? Some CRJ for somebody. I know - just business right, just like all those domestic cities that are now exclusive RJ's. I'm sure it's FANTASTIC for those RJ crews. Not so FANTASTIC for my buds who were furloughed due to lame scope in DL contract. Glad it's FANTASTIC in the E concourse. Not so FANTASTIC elsewhere. My domestic DL buds would kill for my 3/2/3 leg 20 + hour for pay, max 10 hour duty day 3 days trips at SWA by the way. Please feel free to post a 3 day MD-88 trip on here if you'd like to truly compare GL. Oh, I didn't think so. I think most of our 3-days pay more than your ER 3 days day for day too by the way.

Cheers. Standing by for how "you can take it, always have". You kill me - just like Leno. Really/

 

[bravodude]

What A-M provides is a process that leads to a "fair and equitable" integration. That process includes direct negotiations (you did that, and failed), mediated negotiations, and binding arbitration. You guys are unwilling to take part in the arbitration phase, so you can pretty much forget a merger with just about any pilot group out there. Despite your delusions of grandeur, every pilot in this industry isn't willing to bend over and take the SWAPA rape-job just to get an SWA number at the bottom of the list. No thanks.

I see! So I guess its better to have mgt just fire you. Hows that going for your pilot group.

 

[Dude]

I am loving the Merger and Acquisition experts on FI. Comical commentary from the newly minted ALPA dude, PCL. GL, as usual knows how to stir things up. Tanker is schitzophrenic. As for the SWA folks on here, we certainly have some issues there. But judging from this board, I see no one here that truly understands how arbitration and tha law works. It should be no surprise, we're all pilots that think we are the smartest d0uche in the room and woder why our CEOs don't call us more often to run a multi-billion dollar business.

Southwest had a few hours to try and negotiate a deal that would best protect its pilots-a few hours. Given the gravity of the negotiations and our responsibility to take care of the pillots we represent, we said staple. There is NO way to engineer an equitable seniority integration of two very different seniority lists in three and a half hours. That is not something you do in haste. It would have been as unfair to the F9 folks as weel as ours.

They hung on to arbitration and we were unwilling to go there. Thankfully, our company was ill-prepared for Republic and the USCC which had a head-start on us. The labor-contingency language was laughab;e, but we are still thankful it was in there as to give us leverage to "pull the breaker" if needed. It should take months to investigate all the variables to execute a SLI and we were given 3.5 hours. No deal.

Y'all have fun saving the industry with your flavor of fairness and statute interpretation.

 

[PCL_128]

Comical commentary from the newly minted ALPA dude, PCL.

"Newly minted?" I've been doing ALPA work for a long time, my friend.

 

[mt2]

Sorry, way too senior for Gabon. (Africa, for that matter) We don't even go there, and even Gabon is probably nicer than AMA, MAF, LBB, and ELP in the same day, which I am sure you guys do. Hey, GO ENJOY THAT.

Wow, your international route flying must be FANTASTIC GL, especially those great trips you can hold. Long overnight legs followed by a morning nap in a hotel, over priced dinner, then more sleep (maybe), then another long leg back to ATL. How exciting ! Crossing the "pond" isn't all that hard is it, especially if they can train an ex-Brasilia driver to do it. But then again doesn't DL lead the industry in NA track busts almost every year ?

 

[Daddy]

How the hell do you bust anything these days? Dis aint rocket surgery

 

[The Victors]

It seems to me that you are the one that is uninformed, not understanding how Allegheny-Mohawk really works. You'd think after this latest episode you would have actually looked into it a bit, but I guess not.



I'd rather go back to Pinnacle.

Please do go back to pinnacle and stay away from the professional pilot business.

 

[The Victors]

"Newly minted?" I've been doing ALPA work for a long time, my friend.

and we ALL know how ALPA frickin rocks!!

 

[Dude]

Pcl

Sorry Sweetheart. I meant that AAI is newly minted ALPA. We are all aware of your ALPA allegiance from way back.....like way back in '05

I wouldn't want to forget your ALPA expertise.

 

[Deadalus]

Well shoot if they're looking for an airline they could probably get US Airways for $10 and a six pack of Coors(the Coors is for Dougie).

 

[General Lee]

GL,

I think it is FANTASTIC that all your "Delta Connection" regionals get to fly all those routes that management doesn't trust mainline to fly to anymore. I flew MD-88 there for many years. YYZ and YUL were some fun layovers - who flies those now? Some CRJ for somebody. I know - just business right, just like all those domestic cities that are now exclusive RJ's. I'm sure it's FANTASTIC for those RJ crews. Not so FANTASTIC for my buds who were furloughed due to lame scope in DL contract. Glad it's FANTASTIC in the E concourse. Not so FANTASTIC elsewhere. My domestic DL buds would kill for my 3/2/3 leg 20 + hour for pay, max 10 hour duty day 3 days trips at SWA by the way. Please feel free to post a 3 day MD-88 trip on here if you'd like to truly compare GL. Oh, I didn't think so. I think most of our 3-days pay more than your ER 3 days day for day too by the way.

Cheers. Standing by for how "you can take it, always have". You kill me - just like Leno. Really/

Thank GAWD you left DL and went to SWA, where you may make more money for the time being (nobody knows the future, except SWAPA???). Also, you can do the same type of flying at SWA that you did on the MD88---and never really did see the "E Concourse." Wow, your DL buds would kill to have your 3/2/3 legger? You must be the number 1 FO somewhere, because NOT ALL TRIPS at SWA are even close to that. How do I know? I have friends at SWA (believe it), and they complain about being tired. They would KILL to have 1 leg to Rome, 24 hours there eating good food, and then one leg back--all worth 20 hours too. Can you believe it? No, you can't, because you ONLY flew the MD88 at DL, and never tried the INTL stuff. It is a totally different airline. Things can't be broken when you go across the pond. We get better food, and we get to see great places on DL dime----not West Texas like you do. And guess what chief? You have another 30 years to see every one of those cities, again, and again. Enjoy it pal. If I want to go back to domestic, I will. It is great to have a choice---which is totally FANTASTIC.


Bye Bye--General Lee

 

[General Lee]

Wow, your international route flying must be FANTASTIC GL, especially those great trips you can hold. Long overnight legs followed by a morning nap in a hotel, over priced dinner, then more sleep (maybe), then another long leg back to ATL. How exciting ! Crossing the "pond" isn't all that hard is it, especially if they can train an ex-Brasilia driver to do it. But then again doesn't DL lead the industry in NA track busts almost every year ?

I don't know, sounds like you keep track of that type of stuff. Wow, I am impressed.......not. My flights across the pond or down South are a bit more fun than you suggest. You must be "Debbie Downer." Goodnight Debbie, and make sure you "do Dallas" right---Love Field that is.....


Bye Bye--General Lee

 

[Cobra17]

Sure, even your dad made a mistake of not wearing a condom that night. Oh well, at least she was paid....

Bye Bye--General Lee

Speaking of being paid, I hear you lick a dollar bill and stick it to your forehead to be the most popular papi for the boys in Brazil. Very classy.