SWA searching for more deals, SWAPA salivating----article

[The Victors]

and for the record, before the idiots open their mouths again, Air Tran or Alaska would be a merger.

 

[General Lee]

Genital, stop being so hard on yourself. Everyone makes mistakes once in awhile. Especially stupid people, like yourself.

Sure, even your dad made a mistake of not wearing a condom that night. Oh well, at least she was paid....

Bye Bye--General Lee

 

[FDJ2]

you and the rest of the "staple screw job" kids are not smart. It's obvious you know nothing about mergers and ACQUISITIONS.

Seeing how SWA botched this one, SWA, SWAPA and the true believers actually thought that you could buy F9 out of bankruptcy, ignore A-M, furlough the F9 employees and only interview them on an as need be basis, that it's obvious who knows nothing about mergers and acquisitions.

 

[SWA/FO]

Seeing how SWA botched this one, SWA, SWAPA and the true believers actually thought that you could buy F9 out of bankruptcy, ignore A-M, furlough the F9 employees and only interview them on an as need be basis, that it's obvious who knows nothing about mergers and acquisitions.

Kelly and SWAPA were OPEN and honest with F9, they told them what they intended to do. Republic has said some things too... The F9 guys didn't (do not) believe one word from Southwest but buys 100% of what Bedford says. I find this very interesting.

 

[PCL_128]

you and the rest of the "staple screw job" kids are not smart. It's obvious you know nothing about mergers and ACQUISITIONS.

No, as FDJ said, what's obvious is that you don't have a clue about how contracts and statutes affect integrations in this industry. Until you do, you're not likely to see any mergers OR acquisitions in your future.

 

[The Victors]

Seeing how SWA botched this one, SWA, SWAPA and the true believers actually thought that you could buy F9 out of bankruptcy, ignore A-M, furlough the F9 employees and only interview them on an as need be basis, that it's obvious who knows nothing about mergers and acquisitions.

Ok...go read A-M. It says "Fair" integration. That's it. It doesn't say "relative seniority". Do you understand yet?? Plus it doesn't provide any language for the employees, only pilots.

 

[The Victors]

No, as FDJ said, what's obvious is that you don't have a clue about how contracts and statutes affect integrations in this industry. Until you do, you're not likely to see any mergers OR acquisitions in your future.

see above post.

 

[HAL]

Kelly and SWAPA were OPEN and honest with F9, they told them what they intended to do.

No, it's what SWAPA wanted to do. The fact that it was illegal and an end-run around the McCaskill-Bond regulations didn't matter to them. If you feel any bankrupt company should be stapled, tell me how you feel about USAirways maneuvers over the last four years.

HAL

 

[The Victors]

It wasn't an end run. It was a bid offer. Swa was going to purchase F9 only with a pre-purchase agreement between SWAPA and fapa. Basically it was fapa's choice to take it or leave it and fapa choose to leave it. There was nothing "illegal" about it. btw, you know nothing about what SWAPA "wanted to do".

 

[The Victors]

If America West had done the same thing they wouldn't be having the problems their facing today.

 

[fiel12]

No, it's what SWAPA wanted to do. The fact that it was illegal and an end-run around the McCaskill-Bond regulations didn't matter to them. If you feel any bankrupt company should be stapled, tell me how you feel about USAirways maneuvers over the last four years.

HAL

For the 1,000,000,000,000,000,000th time. There was nothing "illegal" about negotiating a staple with pay protection. There was a "Labor contingency clause" which required an agreement between FAPA and SWAPA before any acquisition would take place. There was NOT an agreement, and WN lost the bid. A-H, B-M ONLY applies if there IS an acquisition/ merger AND the unions do NOT reach a SLI agreement and it is sent to arbitration.

GET IT??????

Some of the dumbest people I know are pilots.

 

[PCL_128]

Ok...go read A-M. It says "Fair" integration. That's it. It doesn't say "relative seniority". Do you understand yet?? Plus it doesn't provide any language for the employees, only pilots.

What A-M provides is a process that leads to a "fair and equitable" integration. That process includes direct negotiations (you did that, and failed), mediated negotiations, and binding arbitration. You guys are unwilling to take part in the arbitration phase, so you can pretty much forget a merger with just about any pilot group out there. Despite your delusions of grandeur, every pilot in this industry isn't willing to bend over and take the SWAPA rape-job just to get an SWA number at the bottom of the list. No thanks.

 

[Lear70]

What A-M provides is a process that leads to a "fair and equitable" integration. That process includes direct negotiations (you did that, and failed), mediated negotiations, and binding arbitration. You guys are unwilling to take part in the arbitration phase, so you can pretty much forget a merger with just about any pilot group out there. Despite your delusions of grandeur, every pilot in this industry isn't willing to bend over and take the SWAPA rape-job just to get an SWA number at the bottom of the list. No thanks.

Ayuh.

One thing SWA and SWAPA came out of this with is probably a little dose of reality that they're going to have to either pick up pieces of airlines after they file for liquidation or they're going to have to deal with an equitable SLI with anyone they try to acquire OR merge with.

That's the reality we live under with the new regulations. If they don't like it? They can sit back and keep burbling along with slim profit margins, or even losses if things continue like they are for this year, and a slow, downward spiral of their stock price.

Sometimes you gotta bite the bullet to stimulate the stock price again, and a fair seniority integration might be one of those bullets in the next airline you guys look at.

Either way, best of luck to you. Seriously. It's brutal out here...

 

[The Victors]

What A-M provides is a process that leads to a "fair and equitable" integration. That process includes direct negotiations (you did that, and failed), mediated negotiations, and binding arbitration. You guys are unwilling to take part in the arbitration phase, so you can pretty much forget a merger with just about any pilot group out there. Despite your delusions of grandeur, every pilot in this industry isn't willing to bend over and take the SWAPA rape-job just to get an SWA number at the bottom of the list. No thanks.

You are uninformed. I know this will surprise you, but your definition of "fair" might be different than others. Now don't go kick the dog, there's hope for you yet. SWAPA has the ability and intelligence to look at merger situations differently and form a course of action. You may still get your chance to get on the SWA list.

 

[PCL_128]

You are uninformed.

It seems to me that you are the one that is uninformed, not understanding how Allegheny-Mohawk really works. You'd think after this latest episode you would have actually looked into it a bit, but I guess not.

You may still get your chance to get on the SWA list.

I'd rather go back to Pinnacle.