Alaska Base pilot meetings?

[igneousy2]

Anyone have any idea what the "base pilot meetings" are all about. Trying to decide if it's worth the drive tomorrow.

 

[WMUSIGPI]

No idea what that one would be about but I have never been to one that had any good news come out of it.....

 

[Baze]

More doom & gloom.

At least they don't have GS running around and talking about 155... err 200, no 170, no 190 furloughs.

 

[Going2Baja]

More doom & gloom.

At least they don't have GS running around and talking about 155... err 200, no 170, no 190 furloughs.

Baze - Isn't it amazing how most of GS's predictions are coming true? I think that we as a group and put an end to the nonsense. 75 hrs a month will save and possibly bring back. NO VSA or picking up above 75 until all are back!

Baja.

 

[ImbracableCrunk]

Baze - Isn't it amazing how most of GS's predictions are coming true? I think that we as a group and put an end to the nonsense. 75 hrs a month will save and possibly bring back. NO VSA or picking up above 75 until all are back!

Baja.

Good idea, Baja. Now maybe if we were in contract talks, we could negotiate that type of thing. If only we were in negotiations! Darn.

 

[Mea25000]

never going to happen.

 

[Ih8AFYesmen]

Baze - Isn't it amazing how most of GS's predictions are coming true? I think that we as a group and put an end to the nonsense. 75 hrs a month will save and possibly bring back. NO VSA or picking up above 75 until all are back!

Baja.

75 hours, are you kidding? You'll see greedy geezers pickup to 90 hours and now that VSA is not limited with the "85 hour rule", it's a free for all. As for the MOUs that people are bitching about (ie. 76 vs. 79 hrs of pay on reserve, 2 year implementation period of the "new" trip trading software, etc.)..... they should have read them BEFORE 84% of them voted for the turd.

 

[QCappy]

75 hours, are you kidding? You'll see greedy geezers pickup to 90 hours and now that VSA is not limited with the "85 hour rule", it's a free for all. As for the MOUs that people are bitching about (ie. 76 vs. 79 hrs of pay on reserve, 2 year implementation period of the "new" trip trading software, etc.)..... they should have read them BEFORE 84% of them voted for the turd.

All the guys complaining about that stuff are ones that voted against it.

Apparently it's too hard to read or understand English...but wait, that's required for a pilot's lisence. I thought it was pretty straight forward. The pay rates were retro, not the rules.

 

[Baze]

Baze - Isn't it amazing how most of GS's predictions are coming true? I think that we as a group and put an end to the nonsense. 75 hrs a month will save and possibly bring back. NO VSA or picking up above 75 until all are back!

Baja.

Hi Baja,

Yeah, in a perfect world we'd have 75 hours and no VSA with guys out on furlough. But alas...

Baze

 

[Fubijaakr]

Baze,

If the Company was serious about furlough mitgation, they could build lines to 65 hours. That's the contractual line minimum.

They're more interested in increasing the ratio of passengers to full time equivalents (their term). Just replace the term "equivalent" with "employees". How do you do it? Either get a whole lot more passengers or get rid of employees.

Why do you think they invented the self check-in kiosk? Web check-in? Airport of the future? Outsourced maintenance? Outsourced ramp?

Getting rid of those nasty "full-time equivalents."

 

[Mea25000]

Company wanted to build the lines to 70 last round union said no! Company tried again this time and the union said no! To many old farts flying at or above 90 and they want theirs. I was told we have more then 200 CA's flying more then 85 in July and more then 30 above 100. Were going back to a 1350 senority list and it will work. Well not very good for those on the street or soon to be. PDX base Jan 2010 could bring a few back but they are still trying to decide between BWB in SEA or PDX southeast and etops base.

 

[Fubijaakr]

Union said no? Who told you that?

 

[Old School 737]

Company wanted to build the lines to 70 last round union said no! Company tried again this time and the union said no! To many old farts flying at or above 90 and they want theirs. I was told we have more then 200 CA's flying more then 85 in July and more then 30 above 100. Were going back to a 1350 senority list and it will work. Well not very good for those on the street or soon to be. PDX base Jan 2010 could bring a few back but they are still trying to decide between BWB in SEA or PDX southeast and etops base.

I was told by a guy at the table the company wanted to talk about the ETOPS base in SEA and the union said OK but we want a 18 month no furlough clause attached and that is where the conversation ended!

 

[Green Banana]

Union said no? Who told you that?

I was at the Seattle union road show and the union said "this is not a part time airline, we have no intention of making all the pilots part time to save a few jobs". Reducing the lines below 75 is not on the table.

 

[turbodriver]

30 Capt.'s at 100 hours?!?!

We might get recalled sooner then we think, when the old farts fly themselves to death.....