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Senate Hearing on Regional Pilots

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Yes, I would....as I'm sure my union will negotiate the appropriate trip/duty rigs that still give me the equal pay check and the QOL that one has now.
Why do concede that pilots and not management would "eat" the cost of these new regulations?
Why are pilots so quick to reach into their pockets to solve a management problem?


Sure, why not work less for the same money?

The airlines are going broke now, why not speed things up?

It's the airlines fault you live in SEA and commute to LGA. "I'm tired". No Sh^t Sherlock. Commuting sucks. Why do it?
 
Sure, why not work less for the same money?

The airlines are going broke now, why not speed things up?

It's the airlines fault you live in SEA and commute to LGA. "I'm tired". No Sh^t Sherlock. Commuting sucks. Why do it?
I've been forced into 4 bases in 5 years, should I move to each one. I own a house have a kid and wife. Really should I move everytime I get displaced. You're smart like a senator
 
You're smart like a senator

Now thats funny....
Look Airlines have been squeezing money from generous pilot scheduling for years.....pay back is hell

The reason Regional airlines have more failures is not necessarily experience. Frankly its money.
Training is a cost and majors are willing to spend more then regionals because contracts regulate training and failures more at that level then a regional where its failures are looked upon not as a programs deficiency but rather an individuals failure and more times then not the individual is shown the door rather then scheduling more training.
 
Before companies pay you for a hotel when you commute, they will prohibit commuting. They may call the bluff of any pilot that says they will quit first. Do the math. Say you are a Regional Captain making $77k+ a year. Are you going to quit that job? Where else are you going to work, now, for that money - at least in this industry. (And for those that say I can get another job in a snap and replace that income, not so, at least for 90% of the folks out there)

So, a company may say you have 6 months to move to base, or they will let you go. With all Regionals being forced to downsize, this could be a way to trim extra pilots.

Not saying this is what I endorse, but it is more likely than the company plopping down $50/night for hundreds of commuters! Never happen!
 
A large portion of this would be fixed by a simple clarification of the regulations. The biggest example of this is reduced rest. Reduced rest was NEVER meant to be used as a damn scheduling tool!!! It was there so if weather, maintenence, etc. caused a delay then a crew could go on reduced rest once in a blue moon and not completely screw up an entire day of scheduling due to rest issues. Scumbag management has simply decided this is a nice way to squeeze more pennies out of their labor and stuff more in their pocket.

You don't want me to commute? Fine. Pay me enough of a damn livable wage to live in my base. You CAN'T live in EWR on $18K a year. Hell, the F/O was living in Seattle because that's where here parents lived and that was all she could afford. What the hell do you THINK is going to happen if you pay somebody nothing? You can't blame her for that......she simply lived the only place her wages would allow.

People are stupid. You get what you pay for.....period. It's cliche but it's true. $100K a year gets you a comfortable, experienced, well rested, happy pilot. $18K gets you an inexperienced, tired, commuting across the country b/c they can't afford to live in base, never seen IFR, never seen ice pilot.

To the honorable gentlemen senators from whereever, use your FCKIGN BRAINS.

Honorable....pfffftt.
 
I've been forced into 4 bases in 5 years, should I move to each one. I own a house have a kid and wife. Really should I move everytime I get displaced. You're smart like a senator

Is that your wife in your avatar? Or kid possibly?
 
Don't get your hopes up. They're still working on steroids in MLB.
 
If you live in base willthe FAA/Airline require you to be home 12 hours before your show? Come home early from vacation. Not visit your parents late on the evening before you work? No evening movie? What if your kid wakes you up in the middle of the night? The unintended consquences of something like this is enormous. Add in the number of pilots/flight attendants that commute and it is instantly unworkable.
 
No they will assigned crew rest rooms on site, you will have to check in 8 hours prior to your flight. Call dispatch, find out which bunk, like bunk 5B, use your swipe card and be in the room by the assigned time, no TV, no books, and only rest.
 
The ironony is that people with less experience are less likely to have had a blemish on their training record.

Take a pilot with 10,000 hours and worked at 5 airlines compared to a pilot with 300 hours and no airline experience. Which pilot is more likely to have had a blemish on their training record?


A very good point.
 
No they will assigned crew rest rooms on site, you will have to check in 8 hours prior to your flight. Call dispatch, find out which bunk, like bunk 5B, use your swipe card and be in the room by the assigned time, no TV, no books, and only rest.

Do you think conjugal visits will be allowed?
 
No they will assigned crew rest rooms on site, you will have to check in 8 hours prior to your flight. Call dispatch, find out which bunk, like bunk 5B, use your swipe card and be in the room by the assigned time, no TV, no books, and only rest.
I'll take that in a heart beat, 8 hr vaction and it would have to be paid. No honey to do list, 8 solid hrs of sleep sign me up
 

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