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While acknowledging the challenge of predicting with any clarity the outcome of those labour talks Bombardier Commercial Aircraft president Gary Scott does offer that he “has no doubt majors would like to increase the number and size of aircraft they operate in those [regional environments]. Both small CSeries and larger CRJs would fill the requirement should scope be relaxed”.

I think the only way regionals get anything bigger or more than they already have is through the 1113 process if someone goes bankrupt and reorganizes. We all screwed up with the first examples of relaxation of scope over the past decade and a half. We've already been fooled once. As I've stated before, only the thickest, densest, most clueless pilot doesn't see the damage that has been done already.

And I'm getting tired of reading quotes from Embraer, Bombardier, and the RAA in AW&ST, ATW, and other professional publications lamenting how the industry can only get these CSeries and larger (mainline) jets through relaxation of scope. Hey boys.....the industry can have all the E190's and CSeries aircraft they want, when THE MAINLINES BUY THEM. No relaxation of scope needed. If your jets are so inefficient that you need $50K/year Captains and $20K/year F/O's to subsidize the operation of said jets, then build a damn jet that IS EFFICIENT and stop expecting pilots and airline employees to subsidize regional airline operations.

Preaching to the choir, I realize, but it's thereaputic :)
 
I think the only way regionals get anything bigger or more than they already have is through the 1113 process if someone goes bankrupt and reorganizes. We all screwed up with the first examples of relaxation of scope over the past decade and a half. We've already been fooled once. As I've stated before, only the thickest, densest, most clueless pilot doesn't see the damage that has been done already.

And I'm getting tired of reading quotes from Embraer, Bombardier, and the RAA in AW&ST, ATW, and other professional publications lamenting how the industry can only get these CSeries and larger (mainline) jets through relaxation of scope. Hey boys.....the industry can have all the E190's and CSeries aircraft they want, when THE MAINLINES BUY THEM. No relaxation of scope needed. If your jets are so inefficient that you need $50K/year Captains and $20K/year F/O's to subsidize the operation of said jets, then build a damn jet that IS EFFICIENT and stop expecting pilots and airline employees to subsidize regional airline operations.

Preaching to the choir, I realize, but it's thereaputic :)

Amen, very well said.
The jets need to be designed to compensate us correctly not the other way around.
 
1996 at MIA. AA/APA were heavy into Section 6 negotiations, APA wanted the RJ's. At the time, Comair had the majority of the worlds RJ's, about 40, the rest consisted of a scattered ASA/AirWis BA-146's or Horizon Fokkers. Comair was also privately owned.

Comair Canadair RJ side by side with an American Eagle flight at the 09L/12 merge, both number one for their runways.

AE Pilot: "That's sure a nice looking jet, hope we get to fly them"

Comair Pilot:"Thanks, we hope you get them too"


And there I was without my stack of MENSA club applications :rolleyes:
 
These are the new 100-110 seat jets.

Boeing isn't interested in that segment anymore.

The A318 is a flop: A smaller version of the A320 and, as a result, too expensive.

The DC9/MD88 fleets at DL have, at most, 5 years left.

Mainline pilots can no longer consider an Embraer "beneath them."
 
How about a multi $$million dollar failed lawsuit?:laugh:
And not to mention a reputation around the industry that preceds you and the rest of the girls that belong to your club!;)

....ahhh...gee....I'm hurt......Lawsuit is affecting your scope negotiations...just ask ACL65....More to follow....
 
....ahhh...gee....I'm hurt......
Career wise? You are!

Lawsuit is affecting your scope negotiations...just ask ACL65....More to follow....

Don't worry Joey, you'll get the memo! The only thing following, is you, right up Dan's rear!:blush: Keep your man happy!:laugh:
 

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