Mesa to furlough 250

[dowhite2]

Of course not a word from ALPA all day about this. I love it! BTW I'm sure PBS contributed to not the majority, but at least a good portion of these furloughs. Thanks to the 418... we warned ya. We warned you over and over again!

 

[DoinTime]

More furloughs coming and now this little gem from my negotiating committee chairman.

Now this kid wants us to play nice with the company like nothing is going on. Well I guess we will get along great with management as long as we give them everything they want.


I would like to beg your indulgence and offer a personal note of reflection. Blah blah blah blah...
Sincerely,

This is coming from the same Negotiating Chairman that folded in your last negotiations before the cards were even dealt?

Mesa pilots have got to get the management trolls out of Union positions if they ever want to have even a shred of honor in this business.

 

[CX880]

Of course not a word from ALPA all day about this. I love it! BTW I'm sure PBS contributed to not the majority, but at least a good portion of these furloughs. Thanks to the 418... we warned ya. We warned you over and over again!

Who cares.

Signed, the 418 and the 20%.

 

[pdub20s]

Of course not a word from ALPA all day about this. I love it! BTW I'm sure PBS contributed to not the majority, but at least a good portion of these furloughs. Thanks to the 418... we warned ya. We warned you over and over again!

Would you rather go back to 11 days off with only 70hrs of credit for every line? All these furloughs are soley because of mgt's inability to run an airline properly. Not because of PBS, the 400,418, or who/whatever.


The blame is on mgt. not your fellow pilot

Mesa pilots have got to get the management trolls out of Union positions if they ever want to have even a shred of honor in this business.

I agree...I think some of the guys up top rather be nice with management and hope that they operate out of good faith. To bad this pilot group is not unified enough to care about changing that attitude. A lot of our pilots rather bitch and complain to the union rather than act upon their feelings.

 

[Dubya]

Everyone that is being furloughed is either a 200 wonder from the streets, a 200 wonder from the MAPD, or an idiot who couldn't get hired anywhere else during the last hiring wave. There goes that quick PIC!!! Now word is that JO is going to send more CRJs to GO!! More furloughs coming along with a nice BK. Good news for the industry.

....said the 350 wonder Gojet ho.

 

[dowhite2]

Would you rather go back to 11 days off with only 70hrs of credit for every line? All these furloughs are soley because of mgt's inability to run an airline properly. Not because of PBS, the 400,418, or who/whatever.




Um that's what alot of us are getting right now. PBS reduces staffing requirements. Period, end of story. That is what we knew and were told before you pdub were ever hired. So you are saying that no staffing efficiencies resulted from PBS? Just a lot higher line value for you right? These furloughes were not due to mgt's inability to run an airline, I'd say it was half the reduction in flying hours that most regional carriers are facing right now and half the efficiencies of PBS.

 

[dowhite2]

Who cares.

Signed, the 418 and the 20%.

Exactly you don't. That's nice when 250 more of your fellow pilots are on the street. Nope you could care less unless it effects you.

 

[pdub20s]

Would you rather go back to 11 days off with only 70hrs of credit for every line? All these furloughs are soley because of mgt's inability to run an airline properly. Not because of PBS, the 400,418, or who/whatever.




Um that's what alot of us are getting right now. PBS reduces staffing requirements. Period, end of story. That is what we knew and were told before you pdub were ever hired. So you are saying that no staffing efficiencies resulted from PBS? Just a lot higher line value for you right? These furloughes were not due to mgt's inability to run an airline, I'd say it was half the reduction in flying hours that most regional carriers are facing right now and half the efficiencies of PBS.

my lines are still sitting at 70-75 hrs a month. The only change is that im gettin 14-15 days off now.

What Mesa mgt. considers overstaffed is what any other airline would consider properly staffed. Now that I think about it, IF we do end up furloughing 250 pilots...We would have the most pilots out on the street than any other regional. Percentage wise and numbers wise. And we are supposed to be "low cost carrier" that operates as thin as possible.

 

[dowhite2]

my lines are still sitting at 70-75 hrs a month. The only change is that im gettin 14-15 days off now.

What Mesa mgt. considers overstaffed is what any other airline would consider properly staffed. Now that I think about it, IF we do end up furloughing 250 pilots...We would have the most pilots out on the street than any other regional. Percentage wise and numbers wise. And we are supposed to be "low cost carrier" that operates as thin as possible.

Yes Pdub, that is now, tell me what you'll have after this trimming of the fat takes place... Right now we are at pre pbs staffing. Life is pretty good for most now. But I'd be willing to take 75 hr paychecks and 11 days off to ensure our pilots stay off the street, obviously you wouldn't.

 

[pdub20s]

Yes Pdub, that is now, tell me what you'll have after this trimming of the fat takes place... Right now we are at pre pbs staffing. Life is pretty good for most now. But I'd be willing to take 75 hr paychecks and 11 days off to ensure our pilots stay off the street, obviously you wouldn't.

I wouldnt like to see any pilot on the street. My stance is that saying PBS is the cause of these furloughs is just incorrect. Something that is as fluid as PBS is not something the company is basing their staffing on. All it takes is a pissed off pilot group and a PBS vote for PBS to be out the door. Like is said before...I highlty doubt that we would furlough the full 250. A lot can change in 6 months.